Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Herbert Brownstein (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:00, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Herbert Brownstein
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WP:BLP of a lawyer and activist, written more like a prosified résumé than an encyclopedia article and making no strong claim of notability under our inclusion standards for lawyers or activists. The strongest things here are his serving on the boards of local chapters of organizations, and serving on the city council of a suburban municipality which is not large enough to confer notability on its city councillors under WP:NPOL #3. His sourceability doesn't even approach WP:GNG either — this is based almost entirely on WP:PRIMARYSOURCES, with the few reliable sources being deadlinks which namechecked his existence but weren't substantively about him even when live, and on a ProQuest search he garners just 15 hits, of which 14 are still just glancing namechecks and the only one that's substantively about him is covering him only in the context of his gratitude to a woman who saved his son from drowning in a swimming pool in 1995 (which does not constitute notability in and of itself.) Wikipedia's sourcing and notability standards are much stricter now than they were when this was closed "no consensus" in 2007 — nothing here grants him an exemption from having to be referenced to a lot more reliable source coverage than this, and genuinely solid RS coverage simply isn't out there to salvage it. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 18:32, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
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 * No secondary sources, no professional awards or honours, no high-profile cases. WP is not a directory for lawyers. Delete Denis.g.rancourt (talk) 23:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:08, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - non-notable. Selwyn Floyd (talk) 21:11, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Weirdly, I think my late mother may have worked for his late father, if he too practiced law. Anyhoo, that bit of oddness out of the way, Mr. Brownstein seems to be another case of an accomplished individual who simply doesn't (yet) meet our definition of WP:NBIO, even though he is clearly a respected figure in Montreal's Jewish and West Island community. Delete per nom. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:13, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I can't find any reliable sources other than the one brief mention in a news article that is already on the page. Fails WP:GNG as of now. Ajraddatz (talk) 09:22, 10 March 2016 (UTC)


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