Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heroes (Better Off Ted)


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The result was   merge to List of Better Off Ted episodes. ffm is now L Faraone  21:45, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Heroes (Better Off Ted)

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I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reasons:

These articles are nothing more than an expanded episode synopsis with a ratings figure and a single review included in the "Critical reception" section as a thinly veiled attempt to give the article notability and avoid failing WP:PLOT.

"Heroes", "Through Rose-colored HAZMAT Suits", "Racial Sensitivity" and "Win Some, Dose Some", as well as the Pilot episode (not nominated) were originally created as copyright violations and tagged for speedy deletion. Speedy was rejected and the copyvios were removed, with the articles reduced to little more than an intro, cast list and infobox. They were then prodded by different editors but the article creator, a new editor, removed the prods. The articles have since been expanded to the level they are now, with more ("Goodbye, Mr. Chips" and "Get Happy") added. I have attempted to assist the article creator by working on Pilot (Better Off Ted), fixing various issues in the hope that the he, who is virtually the only editor working on these articles, would incorporate the changes into existing and new articles but he has not, instead incorporating the same mistakes into each one. I've also left some advice on his talk page, pointing him to various policies and procedures by way of Welcomeg but he has not heeded the advice or made any attempt to bring these articles up to a reasonable standard.

Most of the information in these articles is already incorporated in existing documentation. The cast list is included in the main and character articles and the ratings figures are in the main episode list. The only new information included is the single review in each article. However, a single review is insufficient to establish the "significant coverage" required by Notability. The articles are essentially just an expanded synopsis and therefore fail WP:PLOT and should be deleted. AussieLegend (talk) 00:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge all to List of Better Off Ted episodes per WP:EPISODE. Long plot summaries are for fan sites or wikis, not an encyclopedia, and other than the pilot there's no evidence these are individually notable TV episodes.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 00:54, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * merge as the default way of dealing with these, but preserve adequate content.    DGG ( talk ) 01:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I would like to hear these differences you made to "Pilot" so that I may recreate them in the rest of the articles. If you mention the citations, as I am a new editor, I am still inexperienced in creating the citations you created on the Pilot article. Also as for deleting the Prods, I was unaware that that would stop other editors from editing the page. Skuzbucket (talk) 02:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * You can check the differences yourself here. Si Trew (talk) 11:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * comment I've subbed the article (Heroes (Better Off Ted)) to clean it up a bit, for example for the overlinking, links to other WP articles, references, date format. I've left a message saying so at the article's talk page. I hope this helps and shows a way forward for other articles. Si Trew (talk) 10:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I should make clear, this is not in any way a vote to keep or delete (on which I have no opinion yet), merely some wikignoming which for example removes "references" which are actually links to other articles, removes overlinking, fixes date formats, changes "Starring" to "Cast" for a section name, and so on. It in no substanitial way changes the content, but may help see past these minor details. Si Trew (talk) 10:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your gnomery, Simon. I remain of the view that these episodes are not individually notable though.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 17:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge, and enforce it. Abductive  (reasoning) 03:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.