Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heroine (1972 film)


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The result was keep. —  The Earwig   talk 20:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Heroine (1972 film)

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Non notable film, nothing found in a WP:BEFORE to help this pass WP:NFILM. PROD removed because of several reasons, including "Several notable actors listed", but notability isn't inherited. Film needs to stand on its own...not for who is in it.

Another reason given for PROD removal was the Spanish article...which I checked, no good sources listed there to help it pass WP:NFILM.

Also, page creator NOT notified per their request [] Donaldd23 (talk) 22:52, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 22:52, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 22:52, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - I found another source since removing the prod template. Based on that source, the film seemed to have been successful in the box office in Argentina. The film is Spanish-language and I still found English-language sources for it, and I'm sure there are more sources to be found in Spanish, especially since the film has a notable director and actors. Unfortunately, I don't speak Spanish, so I'll need to leave that up to someone else. ~EdGl   talk  05:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment looks like there are sources from a google book search but the previews are often not helpful... ~EdGl   talk  15:31, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - After reviewing the sources and doing my own search I don't see the film passing WP:NFILM and I support the nom. Kolma8 (talk) 08:51, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NFSOURCES and per some WP:NFOE criteria. Does Heroína fulfills "The film features significant involvement (i.e., one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of his/her career." criterion? Yes. Graciela Borges is a quite notable actress in Argentina cinema since the 1960s, and she was a leading role in several works of prolific director Raul de la Torre, who btw made this film. In this 2019 interview, Borges said that she was really moved by her role in Heroína, and that she felt identified with the character of Peny Crespo at the time. Critic Ricardo Manetti wrote that her role in Heroína was among the best in her long career. The film was also a mayor box office success in Argentina, "with 78000 spectators in the first week". The same source cites another critic pointing out to Heroína as an example of de la Torre as a "careful observer of Argentine upper-middle class".Darius (talk) 22:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I did a search of a few sources, I could only find the Aguilar reference, which was already in the article. I think considering the references here, and the context for the Aguilar reference, we should keep it. No doubt better covered in Spanish sources. Deathlibrarian (talk) 09:17, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:44, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


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