Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Herzl family


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The result was   merge to Theodor Herzl. The nominator having withdrawn, this can be closed. I rely on (Hasirpad) to carry   out the merge, and agree with him that much or most of the content is usable. No prejudice to a future split, but this should be decided by consensus on the article talk page.  DGG ( talk ) 03:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC) 
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The result was   merge to Theodor Herzl. Courcelles 02:35, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Herzl family

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Non notable family per WP:BIO. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 22:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Merge and redirect: I agree with the nominator, but most of the content, suitably abridged, would do well at Theodor Herzl. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 02:05, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Notes:
 * This page is a poor machine translation from the corresponding page in the Hebrew Wikipedia: he:משפחת הרצל. I have created an interwiki link and noted this on the article's talk page as per WP:CWW.
 * I've finished retranslating the article from Hebrew, it makes much more sense now. I have also rescued some of the more mangled references (which were horribly machine-translated, hewiki-templates and all) but not the further reading section and the external links (two of which were dead - in the Hebrew article as well - and I have commented them out). הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 01:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The Hebrew article is a split page from he:בנימין זאב הרצל, section "שנות צעירותו" ("His youth"), indicating that Herzl family is probably a mistranslation of the article's name, and the correct title is probably Family of Theodor Herzl.
 * Much of the information contained is already mentioned at Theodor Herzl; most (but not necessarily all) of the additional information at Herzl family is unsourced.
 * Upon restoring the sources, as mentioned above, the article is better source than it appears at first sight, but lacking inline citations. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 01:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Despite the above, it is not unlikely that the subject of Herzl's family is a notable topic in Israeli scholarship, and sources for notability in Hebrew should be searched. (But a merge and redirect for now will do no harm).
 * Based on the above, I think the best move would be to redirect and transplant the references, and supplement the information missing at Theodor Herzl from scratch. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 01:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 03:41, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Merge and redirect to Theodor Herzl: Per הסרפד. Marokwitz (talk) 19:22, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Theodor Herzl per הסרפד. Yoninah (talk) 19:34, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge content and Redirect to the main Theodor Herzl article. IZAK (talk) 01:39, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Withdraw as nominator and merge and redirect as suggested. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 20:33, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
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