Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/High Reaches Weyr


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 12:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

High Reaches Weyr

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This article is nothing but original research which can not be fixed since I have found no adequate sources that discuss this. Under our verifiability policy, Articles should be based upon reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. A google search, and a google news search each show a lack of the reliable sources needed to back up the article.

Furthermore, the topic "High Reaches Weyr" doesn't meet our notability guidelines as it has not been significantly commented upon in reliable, third-party sources. Without this we cannot ascertain the significance of the subject matter. This follows from WP:V as it's impossible to have a notable article on a topic which can not be verified.

In accordance with our deletion policy, this article should be deleted because it is an article for which all attempts to find reliable sources to verify it has failed, it is an article whose subject fails to meet the relevant notability guideline, and it is an article with only content not suitable for an encyclopedia (see WP:NOT, and WP:IINFO)

To summarise, this article should be deleted as the topic doesn't meet WP:N and the content shouldn't be merged anywhere unless it has been verified through reliable sources.  Them From  Space  20:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  —TexasAndroid (talk) 21:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions.  —TexasAndroid (talk) 21:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep I assume the nom has not noticed there are books on this series of novels, cited in the article about the author. I might support an appropriate merge, even though there is probably quite  enough information, including secondary sources, to justify an article. DGG (talk) 00:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you prove that this topic is notable? None of the books in that article are about this topic and this is currently totally unsourced.  Unless sources can be added that actively discuss this plot elemant than this nothing more than in-universe trivia.  Them  From  Space  02:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Delete. This is a highly specific place in a fandom. It doesn't have nearly the same exposure that, say, Back to the Future has; more to the point, this is one of a substantial number of locations, rather than a single central location (or one of two or three). The article has the feeling of funcraft as well; honestly, I think someone made a good point when they mentioned the idea of a trivia section on a fictional location here.Tyrenon (talk) 07:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete content fork, from whichever of the novels mention this place. No realityverse significance beyond the works of fiction establishable via the sort of in depth, independent, reliable source commentary on this fictional location in and of itself (apart from plot summaries that name check "High Reaches Weyr"). Since there's no sourced content, there's nothing to merge. Unsourced=bad.Bali ultimate (talk) 18:58, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The article now has a source and so all the huffing and puffing above is obsolete. There are obvious alternatives to deletion and so ordinary content editings is what's required here, not deletion. Colonel Warden (talk) 07:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Speaking of puff. Here's the addition. "High Reaches Weyr is also the name of a fanclub, which along with Fort Weyr, has over 200 members of which around seventy percent are female." This information -- that there are 200 members total in two fan clubs and one of these fan clubs is named "High Reachers Weyr" does nothing to establish this is a notable encyclopedic topic -- the citation itself carries no information/speculation/analysis of the realityvers relevance of this fictional location. Puff indeed.Bali ultimate (talk) 18:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A fanclub with so few members isn't really notable, unless its mentioned in third party media sources, such as the book referenced, correct? I honestly see no reason to have it in there though.   D r e a m Focus  21:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Delete. The source does nothing for this article, and the information offered up from it is largely unrelated to the underlying content. IMHO deletion is the best option for this and the rest of these articles; simply put, I cannot see this or any of these Weyrs reaching notability with all the edits in China right now. They're either unsourced or weakly-sourced funcraft that belongs on a dedicated wiki, not on here.Tyrenon (talk) 08:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * With all the edits in China? What do you mean by that?   D r e a m Focus  21:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Delete. Without significant coverage (of this topic) in independent sources, this article does not meet the WP:GNG. Trivial mention (it exists) is not enough to justify a separate article at this time. Karanacs (talk) 18:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep If we could have just one article for all of the Weyrs, it'd be better, but AFD isn't the place for a merge discussion. Mentioning just which book it was first mentioned in, and how large of a part it played in any of the novels, and specifically which novels it was featured prominently in, would be a nice addition for the article.   D r e a m Focus  21:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOR and WP:N. No notability outside the fictional context. See also WP:WAF. Stifle (talk) 08:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.