Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/High school for medical professions


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

High school for medical professions

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There's more or less consensus that articles on schools deserve at least a 5-day discussion; declining speedy db-spam deletion; taking to AfD. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  -- - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 05:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. While I think an article on this school has merit, this particular entry is so incredibly subpar (POV/OR) that I believe it harms Wikipedia to keep it until something better is written. - Mgm|(talk) 11:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - the problems have now been fixed. TerriersFan (talk) 18:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. By precedent, high schools are inherently notable.  I rewrote the text on the page and wikified it.  This is apparently opening in the buildings of Canarsie High School, which is closing.  Surprised that we do not have an article on pre-medical curriculum.  The true horror is the news of the opening of a "High School for Innovation in Advertising and Media".  Note that they just couldn't call it "High School for Advertising and Media".  - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, we do have an article on "pre-medical". - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - this has now been improved to a valid stub. It is a highly unusual school, possibly unique, and sources are available for further expansion. TerriersFan (talk) 18:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Very weak keep. This is not a true high school. A frequent current practice in NYC is to place multiple independent mini-"high schools" in the same building. As the article says, this is to make a sharp break with previous persistent failure of the large school. This particular school has an enrollment of only 115 students in its first class, which is all there is--it opened in Sept 2008. It will not have a single graduate until 2012! I am not certain that new high schools which have no track record and no alumni are necessarily notable. I am not sure that mini-schools like this are necessarily notable. Some have in fact gotten significant news coverage for various reasons. Unless this one has, I'm not sure I am prepared to take a step which would seem similar to making the individual houses in British public schools notable. DGG (talk) 20:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The main issue I'd have with merging this content back into the article on the institution's former name (Canarsie High School) is that, in fact, this is not what the NYC Board of Education has chosen to call it any more. If this is in fact a common practice, then perhaps stubs on these schools could be merged somewhere.  I have no opinion on what such a merged article might be called.  - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note also the existence of an article on Specialized high schools in New York City, and its associated template. Some of the other schools named therein are quite small, like Brooklyn Latin School.  - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The High School for Medical Professions isn't a specialized high school according to the NYC Department of Education's Specialized High Schools Student Handbook. New York defines those schools very clearly - subject to the Specialized High Schools Admissions Test, with one exception (Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School of Music & Art and Performing Arts).  I have corrected the article and the template.  RossPatterson (talk) 00:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


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