Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hights Corner, California


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 04:53, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Hights Corner, California

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Contested PROD. This is another of the many low-effort stubs created by the same user in 2009, based only on GNIS labels incorrectly describing this location as an "unincorporated community". No evidence found that this was ever a populated place, let alone a legally-recognized place, thus failing WP:GEOLAND. A newspaper search for "Hights Corner" turns up nothing from Kern County or neighboring Tulare County. The coordinates geolocate to the parking lot of a church, with some warehouses nearby. The only evidence I can find that there was ever anything here is the Rosedale, CA USGS topo quadrangle from 1954:, which shows a gravel pit and a cluster of small buildings, probably either the gravel operation or worker housing. Earlier and later quads show nothing at the site. This is a clear fail of notability because of the lack of evidence, other than this one map, that this was ever a populated place. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:34, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and California. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:34, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * An old Kern County history says "the old Hight place" with no further context, and that's all that I've found. I've looked in the usual places, Arcadia histories, county histories, Lippincott's, and so forth.  Nothing.  So I can source nothing more than "Hight was a place in California.", which of course provides zero context in Wikipedia too.  There is not enough context to even establish a subject.  Delete.  Uncle G (talk) 16:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: I found many references to individuals named Hight when searching area newspapers, so it's likely the Hights were a prominent local family (I am not super-familiar with the area's history). A notable family and a notable place named after that family are two separate things, however. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 00:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * In this case, the person's surname wasn't even Hight. It was Hughes.  &#9786;  I couldn't even make a convincing case from the source that "the old Hight place" is in Kern County, let alone is this purported place. Uncle G (talk) 04:08, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Comments: Google Earth shows the same 30-ish buildings from the 1954 topographic map are still there. See the NW corner of the highway intersection. Google Steetview confirms people live there. This location did not appear on topo maps before World War II. Here's the complete United States Geological Survey collection of maps for this location dating back to 1910:. Perhaps 75-150 people live there now -- is this enough to make this place notable? Recent AfD precedents for small California towns vary -- that's why I contested the PROD in favor of an AfD. -- A. B. (talk • contribs •  global count)  16:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Google Earth is not research. What would make it notable would be an in-depth source for starters saying what it is. Uncle G (talk) 16:56, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as it does not meet WP:GEOLAND or WP:GNG. No meaningful coverage found in the Internet Archive, Newspapers.com, or Google. The Omni Gazetteer (1991) categorizes it as a "populated place" but there is literally nothing talking about it as such. The Seventh Standard Pentecostal Church of God which everyone sees on the map lists its own address as Shafter, CA – nothing referring to Hights Corner there. Newspapers.com finds an ad listing a tire shop called "Hight's Friendly Corner", but that's somewhere else completely (Claremont, CA). The closest we come is this United States Geologic Survey report (1966) mention: "An extensive gravel lentil, up to 150 feet thick and about 200 square miles in area, directly overlies the gravel and clay unit near Bakersfield and the fine sand to clay unit near Rosedale and Hights Corner." The Secretary of State's 2011 edition of the California Roster lists "Hights Corner, Kern" as an "unincorporated area" but it appears more recent editions (i.e. 2022) have done away with the "unincorporated area" index completely. (Can't help wondering how that 2011 list was compiled and whether someone decided to factcheck using Wikipedia.) Cielquiparle (talk) 01:38, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * delete The cluster of houses shows up in the early 1950s and pretty plainly represents some early subdivision. What I doubt is that it was ever or even is now called Hights Corner. Mangoe (talk) 04:10, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh this is amusing! You'll like this.  I didn't try approaching it from the point of view of what people at the place call the place until you wrote that.  The Pentecostal Church and the distribution and other businesses all think that they are at "7th Standard Road, Shafter, California" with not a mention of "Hight".  But officially, according to some very dull business licences in the Federal Register, they are at the stop on the Santa Fe that is called &hellip; wait for it! &hellip; . Uncle G (talk) 04:57, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * And once one knows this, maps in the 1980 California Rail Plan turn up, as does that discusses displacing the Pentecostal Church at Crome. Uncle G (talk) 05:52, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Uncle G I had actually thought of mentioning Crome because Google Maps offers it up as an overlay for that area. There was a "prominent" family with the surname Crome in Bakersfield. But yes, nothing suggesting that Crome, California should be restored. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:47, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I must have missed the Crome deletion but yes, the topos show it is clearly a rail spot and nothing more. Mangoe (talk) 23:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * And no, I don't support a redirect. There's no credible evidence that I can find that this stop on the Santa Fe has ever been called "Hight".  Uncle G (talk) 05:12, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - I see a lot of X Corner placenames in Kern Co. In a huge and thinly populated county like Kern I suspect these locations supported one store (or gas station, etc) and locals called them X's Corner after their friend who ran the place and used the point as a landmark. Or possibly these were the corners of someone's grazing land. But no evidence that this corner reaches the level of encyclopedic notability. jengod (talk) 13:03, 21 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.