Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hillcrest Elementary


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 11:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hillcrest Elementary

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Contested prod. Non-notable elementary school. Nothing that sets this school apart from numerous others that share this identical name all over the United States. No assertion of notability, merely a listing of staff and an annoying photo slide show of students. Realkyhick 18:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC) Delete As per WP:N. 3tmx 23:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * why do you want to delete it? i know there are a lot of other schools with the same name, but someof them are on wikipedia and not marked for deletion like mine! why is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dudebenz (talk • contribs) 19:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment But Johnny's Mommy lets him do it is not a sufficient argument on Wikipedia. MarkBul 19:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete no notability asserted. Eusebeus 19:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete no attempt to assert notability and a quick google suggests that may be this is because there actually is none to assert. •  nancy  • 19:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:N. Primary schools are not inherently notable, and no sources here indicate otherwise. -- B figura (talk) 19:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, Per all of above. Dr ea my  \*/ !$!  20:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Not Notable per above. Djmckee1  -  Talk - Sign  20:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Obvious fail of WP:N. -- Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor  ( tαlk ) 21:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Comment i have a problem in general with the fact that so many schools that blatently fail WP:N have Wikipedia articles- is there not a specific policy regarding schools?? How many schools that have WP articles would ever make it into another encyclopedia?? School article IMO are usually created by people that have a connection with the subject and the articles are arguably advertising (then the creators want to add names of there teachers, school song, members of the football team etc). There seems to be no consistency as to whether they are tagged or not. 3tmx 23:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Comment Heres one i saw earlier today []. I don't know if its notable but I can't even be bothered to give it a notability tag because its just one among a million. Sorry for going off topic 3tmx 23:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Comment There were efforts to create a subject-specific guideline WP:SCHOOL to help decide what counted for notability, but some editors feel that it is "instruction creep" to create a lot of different specific guidelines. WP:ORG is a general guideline which covers schools and says besides the primary criterion of WP:N that "Organizations are usually notable if the scope of activities are national or international in scale and information can be verified by sources that are reliable and independent of the organization." An example of one I found refs for and which survived AFD is North Shore Country Day School, which when nominated for AFD looked like and which after adding references so it survived AFD looked like. Of course not every school has such claims to notability, and most articles are just copied from the school's website. Edison 04:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete WP is not a directory and this is a local neighborhood elementary school like a gazillion others across the world.--JForget 00:50, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
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