Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hilliard state school


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Alexandra Hills, Queensland. I really don't see anything to merge there, but if someone discovers something feel free to merge. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 00:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Hilliard state school

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Contested PROD. Contest was: "rm PROD, govt schools do not have to meet a notability criteria". Correct me if I am wrong, but the notability criteria apply to all styles of articles. This school seems to lack notability, quick search gives a school facebook, "ratemyteachers" result, mentions in a couple of blogs, and a few Wikipedia links which end up here. Taelus (talk) 12:58, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- - Spaceman  Spiff  18:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  -- - Spaceman  Spiff  18:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to Alexandra Hills, Queensland, leave redirect behind. tedder (talk) 18:40, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge per Tedder, and hopefully, we won't have someone say "AfD is not the place to discuss merger"; AfD is the place where we discuss all alternatives. Mandsford (talk) 19:26, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge or at least make reference to in the article as above. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:SCHOOL was a failed proposal, thus there is no specific criteria of "notability" in regards to schools. It is also difficult to determine whether or not a school is notable. Schools rarely make it on third party publications unless there is a major incident. Most of the time, the only source you can find is the school website and perhaps a link on a directory list. - Reconsider !  23:36, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment while WP:SCHOOL hasn't become policy, the common deletion outcome for schools may still be informative to you. tedder (talk) 23:37, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The common outcomes are somewhat arbitrary then, seeing that it has no underlying basis. - Reconsider !  01:40, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm sorry, I regularly find references to schools in a range of third party publications - including local authority websites, local press etc... It's far beyond their own website generally. This school seems to have little or no notability beyond it being a primary school unless that notability can be demonstrated Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If there is no specific criteria of inclusion in relation to schools, then it is redundant to suggest that the article must be subjected to some 'notability' measure. - Reconsider !  09:37, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Aside from the generally applied notability for schools, there is the general demand for content on wikipedia to be notable - WP:GNG. I don't see that in this case just yet. Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:16, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure what the problem is. The general outcomes aren't arbitrary.  Put simply, the outcome is that high schools are granted an exception to the rule of having to prove widespread notability.  Other schools aren't granted that exception and must prove notability in the usual way.  There are various rationales, the main ones being that the high school confers the earliest recognized certification of education within a community (the diploma or certificate of graduation) and that the high school is often the highest level educational institution within a town, neighborhood, etc.   Lower level schools may be referred to in other articles, such as about a school district or a community, but aren't entitled to a separate article of their own as a matter of right.  Those schools can still demonstrate notability, but aren't given a free pass. Mandsford (talk) 13:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge/redirect to Alexandra Hills, Queensland is the normal and very fine action. TerriersFan (talk) 01:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect. WP:OUTCOMES might suggest we "keep" this but seeing as this is just a single sentence, merging seems to be the obvious choice here.  JBsupreme (talk) 05:56, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect - There is nothing in this article to merge. —  æk Talk 07:42, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.