Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hillingston (English cricketer)


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The result was redirect to List of English cricketers (1826–1840). Ad Orientem (talk) 01:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hillingston (English cricketer)

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I suppose technically this might meet WP:NOTCRICKET since it claims he appeared in one first-class match; however, name is unknown, dates of birth and death are unknown, where he's from is unknown, his handedness is unknown, and his bowling style is unknown. I don't see any value in keeping this article. Schazjmd (talk) 21:00, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 22:12, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 22:12, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 22:12, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 22:12, 31 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Impossible to verify such person existed. The only reference is to a subscription only site. Ajf773 (talk) 22:17, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of English cricketers (1826–1840) with a note added to that page that he played in one match for the A-K side. This is per the discussion at Talk:Chitty (cricketer) and subsequent AfD such as Articles for deletion/J. James (1814 cricketer).
 * He is also listed on CricInfo, but there is no additional information. Searches in likely spots - Wisden, The Times archive, alumni. camb. etc... show up nothing at all. So ultimately we have a surname and an appearance on a single scorecard and nothing else. In those circumstances I think it's extremely unlikely that we'll ever be able to build a biography of any kind or to show the sorts of sourcing required to meet standards. If research ever finds anything on him then we can reverse the redirect. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:48, 1 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment Just to add that nobody with this surname appears in any GB censuses of the 19th century. You can assume this is either a non-de-plume or a scorecard error for good measure Topcardi (talk) 18:30, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - in a perfect world, there would be lists of players for all first-class teams - including those without county names and those from outside England. Assuming we are planning to pick and choose articles out of thin air in spite of citable secondary source material, there would be an article for List of A to K cricketers and capacity for a redirect. Barton (A to K cricketer) and Beauclerk (A to K cricketer) also played in this match. Otherwise we may just as well make "Doesn't have a first-name listed" an official inclusion criterion.
 * In the meantime, while we are busy looking up lesser first-class cricketers from the 19th century, there are still dozens of Test cricketers with no secondary sources listed - let alone those who do. Bobo. 00:14, 2 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment, is he mentioned in the bible of cricketer? if not, then this should be deleted. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:43, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of English cricketers (1826–1840), but retain categories please! (see below comment). StickyWicket (talk) 14:21, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've been tending to redirect these to lists/team pages, while leaving categories so they still appear on the team category page, though I'm unsure if this is allowed. I'm mainly keeping the categories for my side-project of recording actual numbers for first-class teams in England, with the loss of categories making this a difficult task! StickyWicket (talk) 14:21, 7 April 2019 (UTC)


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