Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hillsong Church Kiev


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 03:47, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Hillsong Church Kiev

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Non-notable church plant. Merge referenced content into parent church's article. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:47, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom  —Мандичка YO 😜 06:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:10, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep -- This is a substantive article. Unfortuantely it does not make clear how large the church is.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:08, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 17:12, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep ****I really think we need to take a closer look . Moreover, since Hillsong Music Australia opens with an assertion that  Hillsong Music is produced by the Sydney, London and Kiev churches, deleting London and Kiev becomes problematic.  This seems to be a big deal church, in London and Kiev as well as in Australia, New York and the music biz.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:03, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Why? That article discusses Hillsong Music Australia, and only mentions London and Kiev. You have again conflated the London conference with the London congregation. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:10, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the discussion on pp. 70-71 in Religions as Brands: New Perspectives on the Marketization of Religion and Spirituality, Ashgate Religion and Society Series, Edited by Jean-Claude Usunier, Jörg Stolz.  they discuss the Hillside use of production facilities in the Hillsong Kiev and London churches to pick up a more contemporary "vibe' form the London music scene, and music with appeal in the former USSR in Kiev, where Hillsong can also record more easily in Slavic languages.  or could, not sure how the recording/music biz is doing in Kiev just now.   Hillsong Music is (or, at least, was until Russian invaded the Ukraine) a Sydney-based outfit, with significant creative and recording capacity at the Kiev and London churches.  capacity created, according to this book, because Sydney is not exactly a world center of cutting-edge music.    I do not claim to have ever heard of this mega-Church before happening on this AFD.  I only claim that everything I see makes me think that it can support a good article, not deletion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:49, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Shad in Net 08:13, 4 June 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shad Innet (talk • contribs)
 * Weak keep I believe that this article does not violate any of the rules and the existence of offices in Kiev and London is not absolutely impossible situation today. Did you want to rename the article.


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