Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Himel Ashraf


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 05:02, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Himel Ashraf

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Film/TV directors/producers are not given an automatic free pass over WP:BIO just because they exist — their ability to qualify for Wikipedia articles is determined by criteria at WP:AUTHOR and producers/directors of non-notable films/ TV series is not something that would be expected to have an article on English Wikipedia. Search doesn't produce any coverage and substantial information in the independent RS about the person either so fails to meet basic GNG.. Therefore I can't see any significance.. Saqib (talk) 13:11, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * He is the prominent and young film director in Bangladesh, Especially in Bengali movie and drama. He got recognition for his notable work. One movie directed by him got a huge response from the different area. He now works with his second movie with the Bangladeshi superstar Shakib Khan. Many of drama, directed by him on-air in national television and get positive responses. NC Hasive  •  talk  • 13:28, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As far I can see Ashraf ha produced only one notable film which is not sufficient to have a stand-alone entry on WP. What kind of recognition the subject received ? please cite some coverage here. --Saqib (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep He has directed one film and another one is on the way to be released. He made TV serials also. He worked with Faruki, another well known film maker in Bangladesh. In film industry, Himel is a common face now. Newspapers written about him. Sources about him and his works, listed in the article, also shows his enough notability. So, I think, it should be kept. Rafi (talk) 17:37, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Directed just one film so far - second movie not even begin production yet (Priyotoma) so fails to pass relevant N guideline WP:AUTHOR. He made TV serial but none is notable (at-least by WP standards) - fails WP:AUTHOR. He worked with Faruki - it does not matter here because WP:N is not inherited. You claim newspapers written about him. Provide some solid coverage here so that WP:N can be established. Sources in the BLP are not sufficient to establish WP:N and therefore this nom was made. --Saqib (talk) 20:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * @ Lets check out what WP:AUTHOR says,


 * "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series)"


 * Here we can see, the person has to create a notable work (can be a film, book etc). Himel did the work. How can you claim it does not meet N guidelines?Rafi (talk) 08:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As far I can see the subject has produced only one notable film and I don't think we create bios on directors/producers who have produced just one film. A few recent exampls: Articles for deletion/Ammad Azhar (2nd nomination) / Articles for deletion/Gokul Ramakrishnan. --Saqib (talk) 08:44, 21 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep The number 3 criterion of WP:AUTHOR states Now two question may arise. First one, are the television series(es) he directed notable? Answer is Yes, from the Bangladesh media! As these are broadcasted in Bangladesh so you might need to think from that angle. Brief part of WP:SERIAL states that too. Therefore comes to the second question. Is the film reliable? Under the general criteria stated at WP:FILM I see it too passes the notability test. So here comes the bigger unified question. Is this person really notable even after creating (OR playing a major role as assistant director) some really notable creative works? The answer is yes! So keep it. -- P G ho sh   (Hello!) 05:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * First of all, there is no verification if the subject indeed produced or directed the TV series mentioned in this article so first we need to verify the claims. Second, I assume "television single dramas" are one episode dramas which are not notable unless they meet GNG. --Saqib (talk) 08:51, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I think you should've googled a bit before telling this. It's the duty of the article creator, deletion proposer and all those people who're commenting here! When I googled I found that there's coverage about him. Also I previously mentioned, that you might need to think from the Bangladeshi angle. Bangladesh is a country where the official language is Bangla! So maybe there's more coverage in Bangla. Anyway, I find the verifications in almost every famous Bangladesh dailies. Anyway, you may look this. Now the second one. In the article I found that he actually directed 7 Serials, which are not single dramas. -- P G ho sh   (Hello!) 13:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Pratyya Ghosh, what do you mean, "is the film reliable?" We don't actually care if films are reliable. -The Gnome (talk) 09:53, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J04n(talk page) 17:17, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination, on account of subject lacking evidence based notability. Subject fails WP:NDIRECTOR. Inclusion certainly's WP:TOOSOON. -The Gnome (talk) 09:53, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


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