Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hipnosis (Italian band)


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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn by nominator (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 06:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Hipnosis (Italian band)

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NN band that doesn't meet NBAND. Discography is 4 singles and an album, and only two singles charted (I'll assume it's correct even though it's sourced to discogs), both because they were covers, so I wouldn't even say the singles are notable, because neither of the covered songs have their own articles. MSJapan (talk) 00:53, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  05:57, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  05:57, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep, if the band charted as high as a number 10th in Germany (as well as 14th in Austria and 19th in Switzerland ), I don't see how this is a "NN band that doesn't meet NBAND", on the contrary they meet, and not in a borderline way, WP:NBAND. The claim their singles "charted because they were covers" is obviously inaccurate, music history is full of cover versions by notable and non notable artists which did not chart, let alone charting that high. The German version of the article is sourced through the Frank Laufenbergs' Rock- und Pop-Lexikon ("Rock and pop encyclopedia"), and while coverage about Italo-disco artists is generally hard to find online, when they have charted that high it is almost certain it exists offline, particularly in European musical magazines of the time. Cavarrone  06:34, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Reply Well, this is why it's articles for discussion. Honestly, it's fairly counterintuitive to look in the Belgian charts for German chart information, and the Swiss and German charts weren't available that far back (what was in English was discogs.com, which is not RS). I was able to source the other charting single to the Belgian charts as well (once I knew what I was looking for).  However, there is no way I can take a foreign language source as correct and simply drop it into an article without seeing it, so the sourcing of the German article isn't pertinent.  All that being said, if you can find me a repository of old European music mags, I'll certainly work on this some more. MSJapan (talk) 07:02, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Lol, I know it is counterintuitive, actually I found it just searching for hipnosis pulstar chart and the Ultratop website was the first result . About Laufenbergs' encyclopedia, while I, too, have no intention to "drop" a foreign language source (or better, simply an offline source, the fact it is in a foreign language does not matter) into an article without seeing it and I never did it, the apparent inclusion of the band in a specialized encyclopedia edited by an apparently notable author sounds a good sign of notability (and again, this is not surprising considering they were quite successful in Germany!). About finding a repository of old European music mags, I'd love to find it somewhere... as a creator of several dozens of Italian musical bios which solely relies on offline sources I own, I can only testify that finding online sourcing for pre-1990s (but also pre-1995) Italian artists, except the ones who are still active and successful, is most of times impossible. Cavarrone  11:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:43, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Withdraw - I figured the discussion would close as keep given the new sources added, but as it hasn't, I'll withdraw it. MSJapan (talk) 05:56, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


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