Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hiroshi Hara (director)


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 15:26, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Hiroshi Hara (director)

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Unable to find significant coverage in any reliable sources to sufficiently establish notability of the anime director. J04n(talk page) 15:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. -- J04n(talk page) 15:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable roles in notable works of fiction.  D r e a m Focus  15:44, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Are there reliable sources to verify the roles? The external link in the article can be editted by anyone who registers. The roles without reliable verification or significant coverage do not establish notability. J04n(talk page) 16:34, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * They don't allow just anyone to edit the main listings, such as the one at http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6800 which list him as director. Same way for the other series.   D r e a m Focus  10:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd love to keep it, but we need at least one source, this is being nominated as part of Unreferenced BLP Rescue work.--Milowent • talkblp-r 15:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * DreamFocus, I was given to understand otherwise, when I read WP:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Online_reliable_sources it says, with regard to ANN, In addition, because the encyclopedia portion is user-edited, that information is not reliable by Wikipedia standards. I take it that that is not your understanding? --  j &#9883; e decker  talk  15:59, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Contrary to what User:Dream Focus says, anyone can register an account at Anime News Network and then add information to encylopedia pages. However, while anyone can add information, only staff memebers can remove or edit information submitted by other people.  Because the information is added by users and ANN staff doesn't look at it unless someone marks it as erroneous (and even then, it can take years for them to get around to fixing reported errors), it can't be considered a reliable source.  However, there is a "source" field included with every piece of information, which can be viewed by clicking the "look up sources" link at the bottom of each ANN encyclopedia page.  Because people do not have to provide a source when submitting information, this is often left blank, but it never hurts to click the link and then check the sources to see if someone provided a source for information that could be used as a reliable source for Wikipedia. Calathan (talk) 16:12, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Orginal prod stated "Not may refs and all to mirror or own sites. First film listed in article one that was worked on. Not sure there are any films directed by this person" Seeing that tells me that there are no references to support notability here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete I had no luck either in my attempts to find reliable, secondary sources for this director. --  j &#9883; e decker  talk  00:43, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not seeing any in-depth third-party coverage here to verify notability or justify a self-standing biographical article. --DAJF (talk) 12:38, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: Unreferenced BLP Rescue was notified of this debate. J04n(talk page) 18:24, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I would think some of these companies would list on their official websites the names of those involved in them, but so far haven't found anything. I added one review sight which mentioned he was the director of a series being reviewed.  I used Gwern's search tool .  I don't suppose any of you own something he has worked on, and can just check the credits?  I'll see if Amazon.com list him in the credits for anything they sell.   D r e a m Focus  18:49, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete I've found an architect, a dentist, a lawyer and (confusingly) a cinematographer with the same name but no RS for this guy. Some reviews on ANN but those aren't RS. There's no page for him over at ja.wikipedia either (which is quite telling, I think).--Plad2 (talk) 09:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, reviews at Anime News Network would be acceptable RS for this topic, though their encyclopdia would not. Can you please share the links? And his not having an article elsewhere is telling only of en.Wikipedia being bigger and having more editors.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
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