Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hishmi Jamil Husain


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Fails WP:ACADEMIC and WP:GNG. Jayjg (talk) 00:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Hishmi Jamil Husain

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No evidence that this person meets WP:BASIC or more specifically WP:ACADEMIC. A classic case of an autobiography and should be deleted due to WP:NOTRESUME. Smartse (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Kajalask (talk) 14:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Ugh... massively overlinked... too much blue! Article initiator and main editor is User:Hishmi, which would tie in somewhat with its apparently autobiographical nature. References are frequently unimpressive: He worked in the states of Haryana and Uttaranchal on awareness and development of agro-medicinal plant cultivation models. Dr Hishmi worked on inventory of medicinal plant to decide safe harvesting limits. Management and awareness on solid waste management, waste water management, rainwater harvesting, drip irrigation, cultivation of medicinal plant, rehabilitation of wasteland, use of biogas, making of furniture from Lantana (weed), use of solar energy and awareness on flora and fauna conservation for environment development. is referenced with a list of winners from a photography contest (he won a usb stick for a nice photo of some cows). None of the sources are about the subject. Non-notable. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 14:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment

'''*I think importance of environment management and selection for prize show importance of work global. Report on bird watching is also referenced which and several other valid citation not quoted. So this is not valid justification for non-notable.''' Before assumption visit library will be good idea to check citation of author rather searching on internet.


 * delete - though with some clean up first there just might be a modestly notable person under that puff piece. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 17:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - have you googled to check that? I have but couldn't find anything to suggest even modest notability. Smartse (talk) 17:41, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Kajalask (talk) 14:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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* If you will search Hishmi Jamil Husain on google there are more than 160000 pages of search so please take little time get few relevant references.http://www.birdlife.org/action/business/rio_tinto/downloads/Rio_Tinto_Birdwatch_2007.pdf, http://openlibrary.org/books/OL21784745M/Proceedings_of_National_Seminar_on_Biodiversity_Conservation_Sustainable_Livelihood_with_Special_Reference_to_Millennium_Development_Goals_December_8-9_2005


 * Comment- Google search finds that Hishmi Jamil Husain is working as Project Manager in Amity School of Natural Resources and Sustainable Development (Delhi). He is active in various social networking sites. Also his name is found in online appeals and petitions! There are some appeals which he made in the UN Environment Programme, which anybody can make in this freely available website. Funny thing is he is a member of ‘American Biographical Institute’ which is declared as spam and his biodata is published in some paid publications of “who’s who”.--Ramansoz

Kajalask (talk) 14:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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This is more than five year old refernce quoted. Check PIB site also. (http://www.ismatimes.com/p2.html, http://www.pib.nic.in/release/press_ph4.asp?kk=7/28/2009%205:04:23%20PM, http://igrdg.com/IGRDJ%203.htm, ) (talk raman 02:27, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment:


 * People are working round the clock so there should not any surprise when after valid reason things corrected.
 * He is in Research Advsiory Board of American Biographical Institute not in list of paid who is who so be correct when suggesting incomplete or incorrect comments. If you get this advisory postion send it to me. Have you check PIB reference also rather taking general sites. Rajeshking (talk) — Rajeshking (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

'''**Dr Hishmi did his BSc from Aligarh so if you will check list of MSc from Geology you will not find his name. So you are confused. There is always assumption if you know very little and you assume what is incorrect.Rajeshking (talk) — Rajeshking (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. '''
 * Delete - Nothing special. --JeongAhn (talk) 19:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment:Hi JeongAhn:


 * Delete - I am surprised why tag is always removed ‘immediately’ without any valid reasons. I commented on this article on 16 and 18 October, but no effect. I also removed the link of the same article with reasons from the list of “notable alumni” (see article ‘Aligarh Muslim University’). Again, it was vandalized by IP Address (57.66.82.246). I also confirmed from the Department of Geology from where he did MSc. He is never cited by the University in the list of 'notable alumni' even by Geology Dept. One can also reconfirm from – (contact information removed)
 * Article to be deleted as it gives negative impression to wiki. raman 00:26, 27 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramansoz (talk • contribs)
 * There are thousands of researchers with 100s of publications to their credit. Publishing is their job to get promotion and that alone does not make a person notable. The article fails to explain the impact of his research as will be required to be demonstrated by secondary sources / citations. How can a person with one or two book and that too without any single review (citations), can claim a notable person? I am 100% sure it is autobiography and Hishmi is himself working on this article with different IP Addresses.

**Comment'''This seems limited thinking about only paper writing. Don't assume and think beyond that Dr Hishmi work on policy and sustaiable afforestation is landmark in environment conservation and development. Have you wrote any book with IBSN? Rajeshking (talk) — Rajeshking (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. *Delete''' I have been trying to find reliable sources that give any indication of notability. I have been unable to find any. Edward321 (talk) 05:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment You can find it on Government site. Rajeshking (talk) — Rajeshking (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Kajalask (talk) 14:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC) *Comment'''
 * Relaible source use to find in books and libraries not only on internet.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  --  Ray  Talk 05:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete unless something adequate can be found in GS or other citation bases. I can find zero. Xxanthippe (talk) 06:20, 27 October 2010 (UTC).
 * Note other cited refernce and add few plus in zero. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Hishmi+Husain&x=14&y=18'''

Incomplete information without valid varification put delete tag is not justified. I put reply after each query. Wiki is place where information or tag should not put in assumtion. Rajeshking (talk) — Rajeshking (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

No proper justification cited for proposed deletion tag. If there is room for improvement please improve rather kill time in pushing good things. Rajeshking (talk) 10:17, 27 October 2010 (UTC) — Rajeshking (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

I did not find anything which support this deletion proposal. I think Rajeshking gave justification. Take note of positive aspects of page people who are giving discussion having some interest. Smartuse you are between two need to appreciate for your time. Hishmi (talk) 12:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


 * No specific explanation given for deletion. hishmi.blogspot.com and several other sites clearly indicating valid references. I am not sure why valid sites and valid reference over looked, generator (Smartse)of this discussion page look biased for putting tag.  Smartse is more interested in increasing number of  contribution to wiki proclaiming 15000 time contribution. He  and other his friends who look similar limited understanding. This is unclear since page created on 24th September and got approval from Administrators with reference. Now on 26th October four wise people or one wise person (sock puppet) with multiple IDs proposing for deletion with incorrect information and commented in few minutes time. I appreciate Raheshking bring good summary of understanding. Kajalask (talk) 13:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC) — Kajalask (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Note Kajalask and Rajeshking have both been confirmed as sockpuppets of Hishmi, the article creator and blocked accordingly. Smartse (talk) 17:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete its not worth as no convincing replies from the sock puppetRamansoz(talk) raman 00:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete for lack of evidence of passing WP:PROF or WP:GNG. This article is highly padded, making it harder to pick out anything that might be notable among all the fluff; the first three references don't even mention the subject. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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 * Speedy delete. sigh... It should have been speedy deleted as a non-notable person (rather than as speedy delete as a spam article). -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 06:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I understand that academic qualification, 160000 pages on google search and Academies attended do not make any person notable and the article create in autobiographical nature this make the point that article should be deleted but It seems that Hishmi Jamil Husain is also inolve in some social work like sustainable developement. Two publication by ISBN may make him a notable person. Thats why my comment is for keep. Need other's comments on my comment.Aminami (talk) 16:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment First of all, these are not authored books. He just edited them as a secondary person! Not even reviewed, no citations – no certification, etc. Moreover, these books are not on vital topics. There are several books on this subject. -- Ramansoz(talk) raman 00:18, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Taptop (talk) 13:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC) These books are single authored by Hishmi Husain. The following links show it. 1.	^ http://www.amazon.com/Resettlement-Rehabilitation-Policy-Mass-entitlements/dp/3639073797 2.	^ http://www.amazon.com/Lithology-Characteristics-Related-ForestVegetation-SustainableAfforestaion/dp/3639069455/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1285414596&sr=1-1
 * Keep

Importance of topic could evaluate that Central Environment & Forest Minister, Government of India took interest and released one of his book(^ http://www.pib.nic.in/release/press_ph4.asp?kk=7/28/2009%205:04:23%20PM). I did not find other single book on these topics except these two written by Hishmi Husain.
 * Comment I've reported this sock as well. SmartSE (talk) 14:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


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