Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hispanic family traditions


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Joyous! | Talk 14:16, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Hispanic family traditions

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WP:NOTESSAY - Unencyclopedic spattering of topics, most of which have their own articles. Timothy Joseph Wood 19:09, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Most of these are Catholic traditions, rather than particular to Hispanics. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 19:15, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete as uncited essay and possibly original research. The page name is vaguely POV. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:00, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect to ... something. (Mexican culture, perhaps) Or Weak delete.  The article itself is terrible and completely unsourced poorly sourced, but I can see a place for the redirect, as the title is plausible search term.  Montanabw (talk) 08:51, 4 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep The article is not completely unsourced. It contains statements such as "The belief that Hispanics are more family oriented than Anglos has been a consistent theme in the social science literature for decades." which is cited to a respectable literature review.  This demonstrates both the notability and the potential of the topic.  The rest is then a matter of ordinary editing and improvement per our editing policy which states "Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome." Andrew D. (talk) 12:33, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You have a good point. If a WP:HEY can improve it, I am willing to reconsider my position.   Montanabw (talk) 06:19, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete -- This looks like a synopsis of one academic article i.e. ESSAY. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:33, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep per WP:BEFORE. It's not so bad as to be blown up. Bearian (talk) 16:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Please join me by copy-editing this stub. Bearian (talk) 16:46, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 16:43, 20 November 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:24, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is a preachy essay ("Like how it's stated above Hispanics are always practicing their faith and going to mass every Sunday is just another tradition they have. Going to church with your family strengthens the family as one and also increases your knowledge on your faith by listening to the Holy Gospel being said by the priest/ father."). Every culture has family traditions - nothing in this article (cooking favorite foods, going to religious services together, rites of passage etc) is exclusively notable to Hispanic families, and it's not all-inclusive - it appears to be specifically about Mexican families (references to Tamales, Mariachi music, Dia de los Muertos, etc). Hispanic Jews are not going to go to mass and take communion. My Argentinian friend never made tamales with her family. Culture of Mexico seems to cover this already. —Мандичка YO 😜 11:59, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Response to User:Andrew Davidson and User:Bearian. Unfortunately, no amount of editing can fix the topic of an article, nor is it likely to improve the article more than a redirect to Hispanic and Latino_Americans, Hispanic, or, as pointed out above, a more specific and thus more correct article like Culture of Mexico.


 * At the base of it, the effort is wasted when it could be otherwise used to improve the established articles covering essentially the same topic. Timothy Joseph Wood  14:26, 28 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete and possibly selectively merge. Vega (1990) which this article cites starts with: "This review considers research on the Hispanic family in the United States that has appeared in print during the 1980s. The scope of the review includes studies in articles and books on families of Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Cuban origin." Wikipedia has articles with culture sections on Hispanic and Latino Americans, Mexican Americans, Puerto Ricans, and Cuban Americans, as well as Latin American music in the United States and Latino studies. I think this title could redirect to Hispanic and Latino Americans, and some of the material could be merged into one or more of those articles.Smmurphy(Talk) 17:04, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll go along with the consensus. Bearian (talk) 18:21, 28 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Although I'm not entirely sure whether this is a personal essay or original research or both or something in between, in any of those cases, it doesn't belong. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 07:25, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:OR...Rameshnta909 (talk) 12:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect or Delete agreement with Montanabw Dweebing (talk) 23:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)Dweebing


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.