Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Historic Arkansas River Project


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn by nominator. Kurykh (talk) 00:15, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Historic Arkansas River Project

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The Historic Arkansas Riverwalk of Pueblo may or may not be notable, but it isn't the subject of this promotional, unencyclopedic stub. Ringbang (talk) 19:50, 2 April 2017 (UTC)


 * KeepI'd suggest reading the guidelines of deletion with a promotion rationale. This article hardly has a promotional tone and it isn't such that it would require a fundemental rewrite to improve it. Deletion rationale is not based on policy. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 20:10, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have made it explicit that notability is the rationale. Ringbang (talk) 20:16, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * There again your rationale lacks doing any meaningful research. Google search it you will find 20 years of news results. Then read San Antonio River Walk. This are virtually identical in scope, the difference is that is a very nicely fleshed out article and this one is a stub. If you have a strong opinion about stubs expand it. It's one of the Anchors of Pueblos downtown district, is home to several significant city events and notable tenants such as the PBR. Historic Arkansas Ricerwalk [] 360k results, Pueblo Riverwalk [] 257k results. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 20:28, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, okay, I see that you wrote the article, and I understand the deletion nom is not something you wanted to see. Historic Arkansas Riverwalk is a fine topic for an article. The development project that preceded the Riverwalk, however, is of more dubious notability, and one that does not seem to justify a dedicated article.Would a neutral account of the backstory of the riverwalk have a place in Historic Arkansas Riverwalk? No doubt! And rescoping the article through revision and a page move is an option (yay WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM). But who is actually willing to do the work? —Ringbang (talk) 02:14, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * There is any number of Gnomes that will do it, there is WP:NODEADLINE. Consider that when I authored this almost 10 years ago it was still very much a work in progress and at this point for all intents and purposes I'm retired due to real life commitments. I have no opposition to a rename to a more appropriate title now that it has mostly left the development phase. There is absolutely no attempt to promote this project, merely inform because it is a very notable part of the Pueblo area. If the subject meets deletion guidelines absolutely delete it, but it definitely meets the GNG and is also not promotional. I would have to opine that deletion is not a route to clean up. I recognize this article is in bad need of an update though as well. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 08:46, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Apparently the project was eventually developed and became the Historic Arkansas Riverwalk?  Great.  So we move the article and develop further at that title, with mention and/or a section about when it was called the Historic Arkansas River Project.  Thank you User:Hell in a Bucket for starting it.  User:Ringbang, could you withdraw your AFD nomination, so that multiple others don't have to consider all this?  I am willing to help develop some at the article. -- do  ncr  am  04:17, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Doncram, thanks for volunteering! I'll help, too. Withdrawn. Ringbang (talk) 14:46, 6 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.