Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Historici.nl


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Huygens Institute for the History of the Netherlands. Merge: there is no harm in keeping this history. A related problem is 1001 Vrouwen uit de Nederlandse geschiedenis, which is little more than a summary of the subject with little referencing to show for its notability. Drmies (talk) 13:12, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Historici.nl

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:NOTABILITY. Maybe someone with better linguistic skills can prove me wrong? Boleyn (talk) 11:01, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I probably have a strong bias in my google searches from using this particular website so much, but I have trouble understanding why you question the notability. What do you see when you google "dutch history resource historici.nl"?? I see tons of reliable sources, not all of them in Dutch, explaining the value of an open access history web portal like this one. Jane (talk) 11:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The resources hosted by this website seem notable to me, but I am yet unconvinced about the notability of the website itself. Apart from the mentions I can easily find, is there any in depth covering of the site by reliable and independent sources? – Editør (talk) 08:17, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Why is this necessary? Surely a national institute is by nature notable in its own country. The English Wikipedia is not restricted to articles about national institutes in English speaking countries, surely? Jane (talk) 17:43, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The notability of the Huygens Institute is not being questioned here. The website doesn't inheret notability from the institute. Please see Notability (web) for more information. – Editør (talk) 20:43, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Having taken a closer look, I've noticed that the resources mentioned in the article are currently hosted at resources.huygens.knaw.nl and that the website historici.nl is supported by but independent of the Huygens Institute . – Editør (talk) 08:40, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Very observant of you! I didn't know that and only created the article as a courtesy when creating links to those resources - go ahead and redirect it to KNAW then. Jane (talk) 09:09, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent)|lambast 11:56, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent)|lambast 11:59, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:19, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete Website's not notable. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 01:44, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete – Notability was not establisled. – Editør (talk) 08:46, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge with Huygens Institute for the History of the Netherlands. This looks to me like the Dutch equeivalent of the British resources hosted by the Institute of Historical Research.  However, it is the resources and the host that are notable, much more than the website itself.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:47, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * As I mentioned above: the resources mentioned in the article are currently hosted at resources.huygens.knaw.nl and the website historici.nl is supported by but independent of the Huygens Institute. Therefore, I oppose the merge. – Editør (talk) 21:47, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 15:06, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Sorry I am just confused: website not notable (Not OK), resources on website notable (OK), website of supporting institute (OK), redirect to supporting institute (Not OK) - you lost me! Jane (talk) 11:56, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Let me explain once more:
 * The page Huygens Institute for the History of the Netherlands should not be deleted, because the national institute is notable.
 * The page Historici.nl should be deleted, because its notability was not established.
 * The page Historici.nl should not redirect to an article about an independent institute. The information about the relationship between Historici.nl and the Huygens Institute as described on the page Historici.nl is either false or outdated. (source)
 * Information about the resources that are currently hosted on the website of the Huygens Institute could be added to the page Huygens Institute for the History of the Netherlands. The information that three of these resources are hosted on www.historici.nl as described on the page Historici.nl is false or outdated. The links are being redirected to an external website.
 * As far as I'm concerned this AfD nomination can be closed now. – Editør (talk) 12:34, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.