Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History Essay Format & Thesis Statement


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   To be transwiki'd. Article to be transwiki'd to Wikiversity ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 15:00, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

History Essay Format &amp; Thesis Statement

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This article constitutes a guide or a how-to, but no encyclopedic content. noisy  jinx  huh? 22:19, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I have rewritten the article. Please unmark for deletion. Kind regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mister.mansour (talk • contribs) 17:49, 6 February 2010
 * Delete per WP:NOTHOWTO, not an encyclopedic article. There also seems to be some original research issues, though those could probably be corrected. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 23:48, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I can agree with transwiki as well. It just doesn't belong here. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 23:10, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment It's actually quite a good essay. I'm afraid it doesn't belong in Wikipedia, because Wikipedia is not a place for how-to guides, but is there some related Wiki area that it could be moved to? --MelanieN (talk) 01:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Agree, it's well-written and undoubtedly helpful. Just not in the right place, unfortunately. noisy   jinx  huh? 02:30, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Transwiki  to Wikibooks. Jll (talk) 10:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. Transwiki to Wikibooks and/or Wikiversity. -- The Anome (talk) 14:06, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Transwiki as above. I agree that this is among the best HOWTO essays I have seen, but unfortunately it is simply not encyclopedic material.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 05:32, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Let's remember that "An encyclopedia is a comprehensive written compendium holding information from either all branches of knowledge or a particular branch of knowledge... and transmit it to those who will come after us". This article is excellent and seems to follow the guidelines and appears to be in encyclopedic format. As for research, consider the fact that the author seems to have experience in his field. There are no "how-to" explanations or steps. The material is presented as information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.182.148 (talk) 11:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC) — 76.66.182.148 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * KEEP - this article now seems to be in encyclopedic format and will benefit the general public, including students of high school, pre-U and unversity levels. Kind regards to all. — Mister.mansour (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep As it stands, the article is written in a similar encyclopedia format such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_paragraph_essay. — Mister.mansour (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment: As there is already a (somewhat short) article on Thesis statement, and the content on that topic covered here is indeed very good, may I suggest incorporating the relevant part into that article? It would make a useful addition and keep that part on WP (and make it easier to find as well). As for the rest, there are several articles out there on topics covered in this one (Footnote, Quote or Essay) that could probably do with some good and well-written additional content. After that the existing article could be transwikied. Just a thought... noisy   jinx  huh? 14:23, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: A thesis is one thing and a history essay (thesis essay) is something else altogether. This is a unique entry as it defines the thesis statement, the history essay format and does a wonderful job in highlighting the formatting features of such an essay. The thesis statement is a single sentence which becomes an integral part of the essay. This is a great article to keep as is; a must keep. — Mister.mansour (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment: I think the quality of the article is essentially unquestioned. If it was, it would be a more or less unanimous delete. The fact that it is an excellent good guide (and I stress my opinion on both sides of this statement) makes it difficult. It is worth keeping, both its contents and its current form, but, and this is my highly subjective opinion, it is not encyclopedic. An article like this would not be in any printed encyclopedia (you are welcome to put me right on this one), so where's the reason to keep it on WP? There are, as stated above, tons of information worth preserving. It's not the "what", just the "how" that makes it difficult. How about splitting it, merging the Thesis part into the existing Thesis statement and creating and "History Essay" article from the part covering that? Or are they interdependent no matter what? noisy   jinx  huh? 17:17, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep or Transwiki Should be preserved somehow. Remember Wikipedia's rules are not all carved in stone to be enforced by the Inquisition.... Peridon (talk) 20:28, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: But it's pretty much all opinion and original research. WP:OR actually is written in stone, as much as a Wikipedia policy could be.  And I'm sorry, but this is grossly unencyclopedic.  It's like one history teacher's class guidelines; it has absolutely no universality.  Consider the requirement to use "Letter-sized 8.5”x11” plain white paper."  Well, in Europe are they allowed to use A4?  Pretty please?  And "Neatly presented text that shows pride in one's work"? "Tone: in a history or thesis essay, the writer does not nag, preach or give advice"?  Spare me.  If people's "moral support" !votes above somehow wind up in this being closed as a no consensus, it will be a joke.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 21:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I just realized that three of these votes were from the article's author, User:Mister.mansour, and another one from an IP which has edited nothing but the article and this AfD. Guess there isn't as much support as I thought. *whew*   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 21:19, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: I disagree with using comments such as “spare me” since this is a little mocking in nature and not appropriate in this type of forum. Rather, that individual could have edited the entry if he disagreed with “the writer does not nag, preach or give advice”. In the meantime, I have verified this statement with an English Language Arts post-graduate student (now a professor) and this is apparently accurate. However, although there is no consensus to delete this page as specified by Wikipedia deletion policy, I suggest the article be deleted anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.165.14 (talk) 01:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.