Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of As the World Turns


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to History of As the World Turns. v/r - TP 16:02, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

History of As the World Turns

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The above articles... They should either merge together or be deleted. Currently, they are a total mess: no citations, improper formatting (list or chart), bad external links, and trivia. The real-world perspective is either absent or seldom inserted; just fictional-based elements remain. Everything is possibly against WP:IINFO. --Gh87 (talk) 18:59, 13 October 2011 (UTC) As the World Turns is a more concise, professional article than the above articles. I have recently found: some articles contradict the titles, such as the "1976-1980": I don't see anything written about the year 1976 or 1979; I see 1980-199?. --Gh87 (talk) 01:13, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:13, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:13, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete all All of this is plot synopsis.  This is cruft.  It does not belong on Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Curb Chain (talk • contribs) 07:44, 20 October 2011‎ (UTC) (signing comment:Curb Chain (talk) 08:03, 20 October 2011 (UTC))
 * Delete or possibly merge in condensed form, as they are currently rather bloated and crufty, as mentioned. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 10:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, v/r - TP 19:57, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

 Either type of material is unsuited for a combined article (the family trees might be included as images, but the current formatting is extremely bad). As I do not see anything remotely like "discussing the reception and significance of notable works" in such a combined article I can only conclude it would violate wp:PLOT as well and deletion (or redirect to the main article) is required. Yoenit (talk) 07:41, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge them all together into a single article (but NOT on the As the World Turns article) Farine (talk) 00:28, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge The series is long and complicated enough to have a split of this from the main article, but it would be clearer if the sections were all together. It's just a matter of arrangement actually, not deletion--even the nom said a merge was acceptable. Plot sections or even splits of long articles does not violate WP:NOT PLOT as long as the coverage of the work is not exclusively plot. This material might not belong in a conventional print encyclopedia, but Wikipedia-- if anyone has not realized it yet--is (and is intended to be) much more comprehensive than any conventional print encyclopedia .    DGG ( talk ) 12:32, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 *  Delete merge per wp:PLOT. DGG argues that these articles contain more than plot and all of the material should be preserved. After looking at all the materials that are not pure PLOT are
 * 1) ) Family trees for the old decade articles
 * 2) ) a "scorecard", which is basically a plot overview per character for the 2008-2009 articles.
 * After looking at Articles for deletion/History of Guiding Light I have concluded that my original assesment of deletion per wp:PLOT was overly hasty. If there is a place in wikipedia for every single episode of Buffy or Star Trek there is a place for several year overviews of a series as important as this one. However, the current articles are not that overview, they are a collection of cruft. Some of the content could be merged to a combined article and if that becomes too long, split up again in sub-articles much like the existing one, each containing non-plot material such as show development, ratings and awards during that time period. I am aware this could also be done without merging first, but I believe done it this way will be the quicker path to a good set of articles who are useful for our readers Yoenit (talk) 10:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT.&mdash;Kww(talk) 12:25, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.