Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of Israeli nationality


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

History of Israeli nationality

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I hereby nominate this page for deletion. My arguments is that most of the content already exists on other pages; the history parts are well-covered by Zionism, Aliyah and History of Israel and the parts discussing citizenship, immigration laws and Jewish nationality by Israeli nationality law, Law of Return and Who is a Jew?. I think the page was created in response to History of Palestinian nationality, but in contrast to Palestinian and Jewish nationality, the existence of an Israeli nationality is a controversial topic. Jewish and Arab peace activists in Israel have been trying to create one, in order to unite the people, an effort that has been rejected by the establishment that sees it as a threat to the Jewishness of the state. The article is unsalvageable as it discusses the history of something that arguably doesn't exist... It also looks to me like work on the article has stagnated and editors have previously suggested merges and cleanups. ImTheIP (talk) 00:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC) ImTheIP (talk) 00:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. IntoThinAir (talk) 00:26, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:26, 18 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep as a standard sort of article topic, cf.: History of Icelandic nationality, History of Japanese nationality History of Ukrainian nationality ]], History of Dutch nationality and more.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:27, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Not trying to disqualify your vote, but can you give some examples of what content you think would be appropriate for the article? ImTheIP (talk) 14:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * There are other states where two peoples live, think: Belgium. And complicated places like Britain, where Scots continue to try and work identity out.  An article on this topic would need to unpack (or at least mention,) topics ranging form the origin and meanings of "Israeli" as an ethnonym, to the complex, shifting, historical layering of local, tribal and regional identities among Muslims, the language and identity choices of Christians, and the complexity of Jewish Israeli identity.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


 * An article definitely could be developed. Identity as an "Israeli" (as opposed to Jewish or Arab in 1948) was far from a given - and has evolved over the years - to the point that there are separate (from the Jewish community) Israeli-American communities in some portions of the United States (and this is also true in some other countries) - as an expat identity it has evolved, as well as identity within Israel. That being said - the topic having some merit, doesn't mean the present article has merit.Icewhiz (talk) 17:12, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete (draftify also possibly if someone wants to work on this, though I don't think the present article is much use). As I commented on the talk page in a merge proposal - the topic itself clearly has merit as a standalone topic. However, the contents of this article as it stands is a summary/copy-paste of other articles in Wikipedia from 2007 and is very poorly developed - as such it is a WP:REDUNDANTFORK (and out of date one no less) and a dose of WP:TNT is in order. Icewhiz (talk) 17:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, TNT. admitting that I merely glanced at the topic before commenting above. topic is legitimate, but article as written is not.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


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