Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of North Coast Section Basketball


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The result was delete. Apparently there is no sourceing here which would establish notability, plus other concerns. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:44, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

History of North Coast Section Basketball

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Fails GNG and LISTN. It's a list article about a specific California high school conference's basketball champions. SportsGuy789 (talk) 06:40, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following article for the same reasons listed in the basketball nom:
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment CIF North Coast Section is not a conference, per se. It's a high school sports administrative section of Northern California with probably over 100 schools. While the current state of the lists might be WP:UGLY and lacking citations with independent sources, I'd be surprised if the newspapers from the cities of the various schools didn't talk about the championship grouping, which would satisy WP:LISTN: The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been. This is distinguished from a standalone list about one high school conference, which would likely only have the city's local paper covering it.—Bagumba (talk) 09:55, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Probably delete -- at worst merge' to CIF North Coast Section, if that is what it is about, which is far from clear. Is it is list of league champions by year?  Nevertheless I would question whether a school basketball league is WP notable.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:26, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Scott Burley (talk) 03:41, 5 August 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:45, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete it's probably technically a WP:NOTSTATS failure, and if we keep it, will still be unsourced. If we can source it I don't mind if it's merged somewhere. SportingFlyer  T · C  04:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete generally we find that articles such as this one do not generate enough press to surpass WP:GNG. This discussion has been open long enough that any sources should have come to our attention by now.  I'll admit that I do find some articles with mention, , and .  These articles are about specific games and tournaments, so maybe the organization itself could pass WP:GNG, but none of those articles are really about the history of the organization.  So then it boils down to this for me: there seems to be no sources for the history of the organization, so this looks like original research or perhaps a case were someone is trying to use Wikipedia as a free web-hosting server.  On those grounds, it definitely needs to go.  I have no objection if the data can be sourced and then operationally it may be better to merge to CIF North Coast Section.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:05, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


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