Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of Western Athletic Conference football


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Western Athletic Conference to allow for a merge. What and where to merge is, as always, up to editorial discretion. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:29, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

History of Western Athletic Conference football

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A rare nomination from me, (I am an inclusionist), but to be honest, I don't see any real notability in this, a quick search ravels no articles like this (i.e. History of Big 12 Conference football). In addition,this article is an orphan. The WAC is not a power conference, and might even be the worst of all of the FBS conferences. With that said, we do have some options here, as a merge into Western Athletic Conference, an outright deletion, or a re-titlenation into History of Western Athletic Conference which will include baseball and basketball as well as conference realignment (which has plagued the conference, BTW), but would exclude topics such as speculation that the WAC may merge with the Sun Belt or fold outright.

Another option, of course is outright deletion. In addition, this article is outdated. Karl Benson is no longer the WAC Commissioner, but this article says so in particular, these sentences. "He still holds that position" The next sentence says "He is viewed as the commissioner that has brought the WAC as far as it has come." One there is a grammar mistake, it should be "as far as it has came". Two, this is an opinion, and a not sourced opinion, but Ill get to that in a bit. Third, the statement is not accurate. Really, so, losing half of it's members to the MWC is as far as the WAC has came?

Anyway, the main problem is that there no more than 0 sources, and no lead section. The information is outdated. Boise State has left the conference for the MWC, and UNR and Fresno State moves in June, along with Hawaii and is replaced with (no offense anyone), FCS hasbeens like UTSA (which just started it's football program) and Texas State. Also, there should be stuff about more recent Boise State bowl games (the one vs. TCU in 2008). YE  Pacific   Hurricane  15:11, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:10, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge. The Western Athletic Conference (WAC) is undoubtedly notable.  Taking that as a given, this AfD presents two questions: (1) is the history of WAC also notable; and (2) if the history of the WAC is notable, does the conference's history need or require a stand-alone Wikipedia article?  Given the amount of historical information in the main WAC article, and the duplication of information provided in the stand-alone history article, I believe that the stand-alone history article is unnecessary.  My strong suggestion is to merge the non-duplicative information of this article to the history section of the main WAC article and provide reliable source footnotes for all facts presented per WP:V and WP:RS.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:31, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. This can also be read as a !vote to merge all sourced content, of which there is presently none, to the Western Athletic Conference article. cmadler (talk) 17:41, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge good content, but doesn't deserve its own article. Would be great to add to the conference article.--Paul McDonald (talk) 05:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge Presently, not enough content to be a stand alone article. In the future, it could be an article if more content were added. Bgwhite (talk) 20:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.