Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of the Black Sea


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Black Sea. Merging can occur at editorial discretion. Daniel (talk) 06:17, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

History of the Black Sea

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Content already included in main page Black Sea. Suggest moving any extra details and deleting this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.118.239 (talk) 19:08, November 26, 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment Completing nomination on behalf on IP nominator. Above text is copied from the edit summary from when they tagged the article.  I have no opinion of my own at this time. --Finngall talk  17:02, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Is it better summarizing of history section in the article Black sea plus expanding related history article that counts or otherwise?
 * On side note a) I do not get surprised at such deletion nominations but in general in same amount of time and energy can't Wikipedians expand related topics more?
 * On side note b) I am surprised at lower interest in Black sea related topic expansion among European Wikipedians
 * I have nothing more to discuss and add I am bowing out of the discussion leaving fate to other users. Pl. do not ping me for this discussion. Thanks &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 03:22, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:53, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, this topic meets WP:GNG .VR talk 05:16, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, I have read the original discussion regarding the split back in March and I can understand some logic behind why it was proposed. I think there is scope for expanding this and its history is a notable topic in its own right. The parent article could maybe be trimmed a little more in this sub-section, but i'd probably favour expanding this as an independent article, than shifting it all back to the primary topic. Bungle (talk • contribs) 20:41, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 06:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 06:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 06:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect Obviously this meets GNG, but that's not the question here, and per WP:NOPAGE we do not need a separate page now. This is currently a WP:REDUNDANT WP:DUPLICATE of Black_Sea and Black_Sea and there's not much to "shift back". While expansion as an independent article may work well, at this point it can be done in the main article, and then split when it's too long (it isn't yet). Copy-paste duplication of content is discouraged, and WP:SUMMARYSTYLE should be used, not merely trimming of details in the parent article. Reywas92Talk 15:36, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * you're right, there's definitely room to expand Black Sea and I'm fine with merging it back into the parent article.VR talk 03:51, 9 December 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.