Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of the Greater Western Sydney Football Club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. (non-admin closure) NorthAmerica1000 03:20, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

History of the Greater Western Sydney Football Club

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Unecessary fork from Greater Western Sydney Giants. The team has only been in existence for two years, and any new material can be merged into Greater Western Sydney Giants. Meters (talk) 20:39, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Grahame (talk) 00:58, 11 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2014 March 11.  — cyberbot I  Notify Online 01:42, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:51, 11 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. Good fork, content would be lost in a merge. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 03:21, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * How will information be lost if it is merged into the history section of the existing article? Meters (talk) 03:25, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This article is already too long to be merged without cutting content, and it will only grow from there. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 06:27, 11 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep forked content can be more detailed, with a summary left in the main article. All AFL clubs should have a similar dedicated history article. The-Pope (talk) 04:05, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment SeeOther stuff exists. Forking simply because other clubs with much longer histories have such articles is not a valid reason. Meters (talk) 18:32, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * comment you don't have to respond to ever dissenting view, especially when you put words into my mouth. I didn't actually use any other stuff exists as a reason. To make it clearer, an overly detailed history section would be undue weight in the main article. The comment about other clubs was a side opinion of where we should be heading. The-Pope (talk) 02:42, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Not trying to put words in your mouth, just replying to the obvious implication of a connection between the sentences. Sorry I'm not a mind reader. Meters (talk) 23:10, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Wikipedia's currently only holding the tiniest fraction of what will be there in due course. Just because this article is a bit ahead of the game, that is no reason to delete it. Thincat (talk) 08:48, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment When there is enough material to warrant a fork, then create the article. Until then just merge the material into the main article. Meters (talk) 18:32, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Year on Year information should be contained within individual season articles. There isn't even a season article for 2013 which would go some way to explain why this information is clogging up the GWS History section. A forked article isn't the place to summarise the goings on of a regular season. Comment: GWS Editors would be better off putting their effort toward creating/maintaining season articles and just putting general historical type information in the History section of the main GWS page. Ck786 (talk) 22:18, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 16:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:29, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

 Delete, but... I believe that there is a valid fork specifically covering the Foundation of the Greater Western Sydney Football Club. There is a good level of detail in the Greater Western Sydney Giants section to support an entire article which addresses the background and vagaries of this specific event – provided the referencing for the Early Proposals section is brought up to scratch – which would have undue weight in the main article, but which could form its own self-contained and timeless piece. But the rest of the club's history, comprising three seasons of senior football, is not yet substantial enough to warrant its own article; and the current content is, as Ck786 says, better suited to year-by-year articles. Aspirex (talk) 08:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * So you want to keep/create a subset of this article but delete the whole article? As you say the foundation of a club is a significant part of the history of the club, and should be expanded - it wouldn't have undue weighting in an overarching history article. Two of the three possible individual year-by-year articles don't exist yet.  This isn't GAR/FAR, the article needs improvement, not worrying about splitting it up further or deleting. The-Pope (talk) 14:03, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, exactly. I want to delete the article on the history of the club. But I would not be opposed to a stand-alone article dedicated specifically to the foundation of the club. Aspirex (talk) 10:45, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
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