Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of the New Jersey Devils (second nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Speedy delete, db-author. RasputinAXP  c  17:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

History of the New Jersey Devils
As I previously noted in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey, this article has no use. During the creation of the article, the creator in question said that they would be returning to the article in an attempt to try and turn it into a Featured Article. It has now been four months since the articles creation, and the article has not been touched once by the creator since then, and has also been left in decay for the past two months at the least. The article also sets a bad precedent insomuch as the New Jersey Devils are only a 24 year old hockey team, while other, more storied teams (such as the Original Six of the National Hockey League do just fine without the need of a "History of the ..." article for their own team histories. While this article may have one or two things of particular note that the team's main article neglects to mention (for example the controversy over the team's name a year ago), just about all of the article is a carbon copy of the team's history on the main page with some minor tweaks on the wording here and there.--Resident Lune 14:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

*Keep It's just an expansion of an important section of an important entity. Why slaughter the information when there is not a question of notability of the New Jersey Devils, and there is certainly nothing wrong with having a history article, so long as it exceeds the limits of the main page. AdamBiswanger1 16:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC) I didn't realize how extensive the NJD article was. AdamBiswanger1 18:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge anything relevant and Delete. Redundant. BoojiBoy 14:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Redundant. ccwaters 14:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment See here for the original deletion discussion. -- JamesTeterenko 15:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge It should be with the main article. DMighton 15:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge anything that is not already on the New Jersey Devils page, then Delete. Redundant. -- Skudrafan1 16:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge back/Delete. Premature emancipation. -- GWO
 * Merge/Delete There is not enough new information in the history article to warrant a separate page.  Nearly everything that is covered in this article is already on New Jersey Devils. Resolute 16:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge - there simply isn't enough info at this point to justify the separate article, and based on the lack of edits, there does not seem to be a lot of contributors willing to work on it. The ifnormation would fare better int he main article. -- Whpq 17:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge the information in the article to New Jersey Devils, and for GFDL purposes redirect History of the New Jersey Devils to it as well. RasputinAXP   c  19:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge/Delete as above. Frankly, while I'm as much of a hockey fanatic as the next fellow, the point at which an article about a hockey team gets too large for a single Wikipedia article is the point at which it needs to be trimmed; this is an encyclopedia, not a novel.  RGTraynor 19:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I dunno about that. Montreal Canadiens could probably be easily broken into three articles: Current team, history and records.  For a 95+ year old team, multiple articles make perfect sense, and are almost required.  For a 25 year old team, not so much. Resolute 22:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect, doesn't seem to be enough information right now to justify a separate article. JYolkowski // talk 22:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect. What's next, a History of the Minnesota Wild article? --NeoChaosX 02:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. As the page's creator, allow me to explain.  Several months ago, I began working on the main NJD article to bring it to FA status (or at least Good).  Using several team pages that had made FA status as a template, I created a History page to allow a much more detailed history of the team on the sub-page, while keeping the main page broad (see: New England Patriots, Gotheborg, etc.)  However, real life prevented me from working on the page for a week, then two weeks, then it turned into several months.  At this time I do not know when I will be able to resume work on the main page.  As such, when that time comes, I will work solely on the main page.  When it goes up for peer review, if at that time the history section is too extensive to fit on one page, then and only then will it be split off into its own page.  However, given the comments above (I'm aware the team is only 24 years old, same age as me), it may not be necessary to house a separate page.  Therefore, I suggest deleting the History page (as there isn't anything on it that isn't on the main page), or, failing that, a redirect.  Merge is unnecessary, since it's a carbon copy of the main page anyway.  Anthony Hit me up... 13:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I can take care of that, then. RasputinAXP   c  17:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.