Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hit the Lights


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Merge and redirect. Consensus seems to be that each song is notable, but only in the context of the album. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hit the Lights

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Contested prod, based on the fact that this song was (apparently, although no citations are provided for this claim) the first ever Metallica song. I'm bringing the discussion here, since there seems to be a lack of sources establishing notability at present. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - It is the first Metallica song, which I believe is enough to justify keeping it. --Bongwarrior 09:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Being the first song probably bears mentioning in the article about the band. However, it does NOT yet appear that people outside of wikipedia have written enough material about this song for us to use to build an encyclopedia article around.  Thus, it should be deleted.  --Jayron32| talk | contribs  16:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless sources showing notability are found. J Milburn 18:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to album Songs of notable artists which, by themselves, lack reliable sources don't necessarily have to be deleted. They can be redirected to the proper music album for reference, since people might search for them in Wikipedia or in other search engines. - Mtmelendez (Talk 21:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment This should not be redirected to the album, as there is a Hit the Lights (band) as well. (I have no opinion about the mass deletion of Metallica songs, which I think is silly and could easily be sourced, but am not at liberty to do the sourcing right now, which means they'll probably all be gone by the time I can do it.) Chubbles 22:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename and Redirect to album Disambiguation page to all instances with Metallica's Hit the Lights redirect to album --  ALLSTAR    ECHO  06:18, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Move to Hit the Lights (song), convert then the article into a redirect to the album and Hit the Lights into a dab page, disambiguating links there. This way we keep all stuff and the links and if someone sees a case the song can be fleshed out into an article once more. Example: Metal Militia. We shouldn't go through the deletion loop in such a case, but only after we can't agree whether redirect or article. --Tikiwont 15:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate and point to the album on which the song can be found. Unfortunately there isn't a notability guideline for songs so it seems that every song that was ever released on a notable album will eventually have its own article.  Even if that article just states the length and what album it was released on.  Though I'd like to stem the tide wherever possible.  Dismas |(talk) 17:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, there IS a notability guide for songs. Its called WP:N.  It says that any subject (and songs are not exempt) is only notable if there are multiple, non-trivial references in reliable sources.  All individual notability guides center around this point anyways, and any hypothetical "song" guide would have this as its first principle.  This article does NOT qualify, and thus should be redirected back to the album. --Jayron32| talk | contribs  17:57, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename and Redirect to album Tiptopper 10:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.