Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hitit Computer Services


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. This is a close one, but there are several sources that the "delete" !voters have failed to refute completely. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:41, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Hitit Computer Services

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Fails WP:CORP ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   01:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Web search turns up with limited relevant results. As per nom said it fails WP:CORP. ///Euro Car  GT  02:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable company, article fails WP:CORP. Randor1980 (talk•contributions) 13:03, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm not interested enough in this one to research it fully, but since this is a firm based in Turkey, try searching for "Hitit Bilgisayar". There appear to be a number of newspaper articles etc., mostly in Turkish, of course. —S MALL  JIM   15:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep The company complies with requirements in Wikipedia Notability Guidelines for organizations and companies. It is stated in the guidelines that "An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources." The article includes references to independent major travel industry news websites and reliable, globally known organization websites. The article should be kept as the company is notable based on Wikipedia guidelines. ''' Svenjka 14:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC) — Svenjka (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment the article doesnt have substantial independent coverage. The only meaningful source is this one, the rest are minor mentions or directory results.  Flat Out  let's discuss it  15:08, 13 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep based on the precedents set by similar (aviation software company) articles. One example I have accessed through the "See also" section of Hitit Computer Services is this one. Article history shows that it had a similar WP:CORP deletion proposal for non-notability, however the dispute was lifted when several industry-specific references were added (even though some of those references are broken links). I believe it is only fair that the same criteria (industry-specific coverage) for notability should apply in this case as well. Xasf (talk) 09:14, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment -Xasf, the article Navitaire was never nominated for deletion. a Prod Template is not the same thing and it can't be used as a comparison with this discussion.  Flat Out  let's discuss it  09:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Indeed, thanks Flat Out for pointing it out. In this case, I hope we can still agree on applying the same notability criteria for both articles and accept or reject industry-specific coverage as a valid source. I feel it should be valid on both cases from what I have gathered by reading references from the articles as well as conducting some web searches on my own. Xasf (talk) 10:06, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - Xasf the notability criteria is WP:CORP. Which sources do you believe meet the criteria under this guideline?  Flat Out  let's discuss it  10:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment There is a 2 page coverage about the company and an interview with their CEO in Forbes Turkey magazine. The article was by Erdinc, Ersun (1 August, 2012). "Suya Konan Turna". Forbes Turkiye, p. 104, 105. ''' Svenjka 11:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Flat Out, I think there are a couple of things we have to take into account for both cases, however I will focus on this article to avoid triggering a WP:LINKEDIN reaction. It seems to me that the article is related to an entity that is notable (with numereous independent sources as per WP:CORP to satisfy the "multiple sources for non-substantial coverage" requirement of WP:CORP), albeit within a specific field. This may cause some ambiguity with regards to WP:CORP and cast doubt to the overall notability, however I would like to point out that while the audience is industry-specific, the publications / sources are global and thus should satisfy the requirements. I believe the notability is further reinforced by the awards provided by such global instutitions.
 * On the other hand, I would also like to remark that the references have room for improvement and would like to invite the author to provide further sources to alleviate doubts, if possible. Update: I have just received a revision conflict while submitting and noticed that Svenjka already provided further references from Forbes. Xasf (talk) 11:25, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Dear Flat Out and Xasf more references have been included in the article including Forbes Turkiye magazine and Milliyet, a nationwide daily newspaper with over 160,000 daily readers. ''' Svenjka 12:59, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Weak keep Other independent sources needed--Teo Pitta (talk) 08:10, 18 April 2014 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)


 * delete No claims of notability, no independent sources, only press-release kind of stuff. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:50, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment I would like to remind my comment above that more references have been included in the article including Forbes Turkiye magazine and Milliyet, a nationwide daily newspaper with over 160,000 daily readers. These are not press releases, but articles covering the company in depth. ''' Svenjka 08:32, 21 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete With all due respect, Svenjka, your characterization of Milliyet is absolutely correct, but that article is a warmed over press release, as a simple reading of it will verify. --j⚛e deckertalk 23:06, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
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