Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hoe of Destruction


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Can&#39;t sleep, clown will eat me 09:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Hoe of Destruction


This article is about a magic weapon which appeared in a single installment of the Ultima series and was not integral to the plot. There are dozens of such weapons, and probably at least ten in Ultima VII alone. Not at all notable. —Psychonaut 22:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - this might merit a mention in one of the main articles, but certainly not notable enough to warrant its own. --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 22:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. &mdash; The Gr e at Llamamoo? 22:55, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge to Ultima VII as the information itself is valid, and may be of interest to some folks. FrozenPurpleCube 23:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete and Merge - I told them to delete it months ago but they started whining about how their fancruft was too important for a merge. The page is mostly plot summary. Some guy 00:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: I don't mean merge the whole article, just the description of the weapon. So that's really not much of a merge. Some guy 06:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete and Don't Merge Blatant Gameguide article. There are scores, even hundreds of hidden secrets/special weapons in a game like Ultima VII, which also has a huge plot with scores of characters each with their little backstory. Merging this with the main game article would suggest listing every single special secret and each character - again, unencyclopedic and heading off to gameguidesville. Bwithh 04:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm the original creator of this article. Let me put it this way: I was young and needed mo... er, well, something. =) I certainly wouldn't create an article like this today. Just a few days ago, I was contemplating on maybe something like "List of items of Ultima series" or something, which would list notable and memorable items from the series. A list article would be the sane way to handle items that just appear in one part of the series. (We already merged The Companions of the Avatar previously, in similar vein.) Hoe of Destruction is unique to Ultima VII part 1, therefore in my opinion, it's merge material - but in this case, it would need a chainsaw-trimming and the list article in question doesn't exist yet. The item is unique to the series, and certainly an unique item considering all CRPGs, but I don't think those facts alone save it. It's like Victory Gin. So as the primary author of the article, I don't mind if it gets deleted now; it would be largely rewritten anyway when and if I ever get around to creating that item list article. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 08:18, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per parent. It's amusing to see it here, of course, but it'd be better to see this on the strategy wikis.  The Doom reference is notable, but let's face it... this ain't no dopefish. :D –Gunslinger47 08:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete and don't merge. The existence of this weapon is probably worthy of noting in an article like List of weapons in Ultima, but the backstory is utterly unimportant.  Nothing in this article can be salvaged except for its title. —Psychonaut 12:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete and don't merge -- Whpq 17:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * KEEP I mean come on guys, it's the HOE OF DESTRUCTION. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.169.90.2 (talk • contribs).
 * It is, and that's why I felt it needed an article back in the day, and that's why I feel it's worth mentioning (in an abridged form) in an another article in due time. I just feel it's worth starting over. =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 16:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Although this has got to be the coolest sounding weapon I have ever heard of, it has little importance outside the series. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete before someone attempts to redirect it to a female person they don't like. -- Elar  a  girl  Talk 18:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.