Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hogerzeil destileria (rum)


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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:54, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Hogerzeil destileria (rum)

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No indication of notability. Page created by user with probable WP:COI who has been warned previously about spam (User talk:Timmhogerzeil) Derek Andrews (talk) 11:17, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 11:54, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Paraguay-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 11:54, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:07, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete The article seems to have been written by the founder of the company. I made a good faith search for coverage in reliable, independent sources. All I found was an article in a Paraguayan newspaper, where the company is based, reporting that they had exported 3,200 bottles of rum (a tiny amount) to the United States. That local small business press coverage was almost certainly the product of promotional efforts by the company, and is insufficient to establish notability. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  06:26, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

do not delete: yes I am the owner of the company and yes I tried to list different topics before without luck. This is not because the listing is not legit, but looks like because I am not doing it correctly. to me as a person … just google my name: Timm Hogerzeil. I have written a couple of published books, directed and published over 40 DVDs and Blu-Rays, a documentary was shot on my life that is considered cultural heritage by the German culture ministry etc etc This new listing of Jules Verne is legit as we are the first Rum of Paraguay that exports to global markets. What is your background that you know how big or small 3200 bottles are? Do you read spanish? This export is the initial of monthly 5000 bottles. Not sure how many micro distilleries globally sell as many. Next month we have our first export to Europe. Further Jules Verne Rum is the first global SteamPunk spirit brand next to Kraken Rum. Probably you do not know what SteamPunk is. Some of the biggest computer games recently released, movies, bars, hotels etc … This trend is not in the media or public eye, but huge around the geek world (you are probably no Geek - otherwise you would know) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk It does not make any differences commercially to be in Wikipedia or not. Still my life and all products I have done so far are of public interest. I designed many opening titles of big Hollywood movies, a commercial I designed became the most ever broadcasted ad in US TV history. (nothing I want to list here) Family background: my grandfather was a famous actor, director of the Nazi area. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Wemper Me and my brother (Caspar Hogerzeil) are now 3rd generation directors of relevance. Many awards in Cannes, Art Directors Club etc … many important productions. Instead of deleting … maybe help me to put it in a way it works with your requirements as I seem to be not doing it well. Hope you can help and make this work as I truly believe this is of public interest and should be in Wikipedia. I should put me in as well again … just do not want to try again without knowing how or if I do it correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.52.178.24 (talk) 19:42, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Response to Timm The problem with your article is not so much the content but the subject. For an article to be acceptable to the English Wikipedia it must be about a subject that is sufficiently notable. In general, this requires that independent sources have published content about it. In this case we have more specific notability guidelines for businesses and their products which details such things as the depth of coverage required and the independence of the sources. The size and niche of your market are irrelevant unless these independent sources have made note of them, as too are the background of the author of the article. I hope this helps to clarify what wikipedia is about and how it works. If you can find suitable references that demonstrate the notability of your distillery you are welcome to add them. Maybe it is just too soon? There are of course other opportunities online for you to write about your company and products such as steampunk wikia. Best wishes. Derek Andrews (talk) 12:57, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


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