Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holliston Church


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  13:19, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Holliston Church

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NN church building. No independent sources in article. Searching turns up little. It is listed in Emporis, and I found a blog article. Newspaper.com search finds plenty of routine mentions of people or events there. Nothing like the required in-depth sigcov. MB 21:19, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment this blog article suggests an interesting history, including being moved stone-by-stone (you would think the press would have picked up on that) and briefly used as a film set, though the church website itself doesn't make any mention of anything significant at all. It probably wouldn't be missed on Wikipedia if it were to be deleted, as it currently serves only as a listing. Wikipedia isn't a listing service. Sionk (talk) 01:17, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete -- So far I see little to indicate that this is not a typical local church, though particularly focusing on a particular ethnic community. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:00, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I started the article after walking past the building and thinking it must be notable as it's visually striking, see the photos I took of it, and hoping someone else would come along later and expand the article so I could find out more about it. Sadly that hasn't happened in the last 6 years. Looking now, it is locally listed, and was considered for submission to NRHP in 2017, and possibly submitted in 2018. It was noted in An Arch Guidebook to Los Angeles by Robert Winter, and Downtown Pasadena's Early Architecture. There's also a description here. I think it meets notability requirements, albeit barely. I can expand the article with these references (and do another search for more) if it's kept. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:57, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The 2017 document did not say it was "considered" for nomination; there was a sentence that said it "appears eligible". The 2018 document has a paragraph on the building, mostly about its early history before it was dismantled and moved. This is not a NRHP submission for the property, just a general history of early Pasadena. The two guidebooks each contain a short paragraph, mostly repeating the prior information. The blog has the most detailed info, but it is not a RS. I agree it looks like it should be notable, but I don't see the coverage. Until it is listed on the NRHP or written about elsewhere in more detail it doesn't meet GNG. MB 19:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I think it is sufficiently notable, but barely. Let's see what others think. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:50, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Leaning towards Keep or at least Wait. It does indeed seem like a church with an interesting history, but better sources should be found. I don't have time to do that right now. Archive.org has a number of hits, but it's not clear if they're referring to the same church, and it appears at least some of them aren't. If you can find who the architect was I suspect that would lead you to some sources as well. Also, it might be named wrong, when I searched for "Community Church at Holliston" which is what it calls itself, I started getting more hits. WestCD (talk) 22:30, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:09, 17 December 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:41, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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