Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hollywood or Bust (game show)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Bruce Forsyth. Nice to redirect you, to redirect you .... nice! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  17:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Hollywood or Bust (game show)

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No evidence this TV programme meets WP:NMEDIA/GNG. Prod declined with a suggestion of merging, but no target was specified. Further, the current two sentence substub is unreferenced, so there is no referenced content to merge (WP:V). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 15:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  15:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:47, 29 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Bruce Forsyth as has been done with several unsuccessful UK quiz shows in the past (that is, redirected to their host's article).  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:52, 1 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge When you had read the article, you could have seen that it was a program om ITV (TV network), a valid merge-option. The Banner  talk 14:15, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Ping User:YorkshireLad, who offered some thoughts about a potential for a related merge. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:38, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Per my reply on WP:Articles for deletion/Fight Night (TV programme), I'd argue that merging with ITV (TV network) doesn't make much sense, because that only lists a handful of the network's most notable shows. This most definitely is not one, and I think, if reference were to be maintained anywhere post-deletion, Bruce Forsyth would be the right place, per Nate.
 * That said, I think a case could be made for saving this one. There seems to be coverage in reliable sources, including the BFI  and The Telegraph, though I'm not sure whether that counts as  coverage.  (It also merits a mention in Bruce Forsyth's autobiography! )  This is perhaps whataboutery, but I'd argue that this is no more or less notable than the other game shows described as unsuccessful on Bruce Forsyth (namely Takeover Bid and Didn't They Do Well); consistency would suggest the same treatment should be applied to all, though I'm aware that's not always how Wikipedia works.  YorkshireLad (talk) 10:00, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Good finds, through the BFI entry is just a catalogue entry, not in-depth at all. The second source does give us a paragraph to work with, it's just a paragraph, but still, it is a paragraph, so it is something. Unfotunately Google does not give me the view for the book you linked, so I can't comment on whether is coverage is in-depth, could you quote the relevant text here? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * "This was an idea called Hollywood or Bust, a show in which I assumed the role of a film director auditioning members of the studio audience to play famous film actors and enact a scene from a famous movie […] under my direction. It was an entertaining idea and, but from some contractual problems over the format, would have benefited from a second series to perfect." Obviously not an unbiased source, coming from the host!  YorkshireLad (talk) 12:07, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Since the book went through editing and presumably review, I am less concerned about the source being not independent, but rather, it doesn't seem in-depth. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:29, 2 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to Bruce Forsyth#Game show host. I lean to agree with the notion that the show was sufficiently about Bruce Forsyth for him/it to be the correct target for a merger. I notice that this article has been prodded before AfDd. That is in strong violation with WP:PRD. By the results here, even an AfD was the incorrect procedure to follow (let alone prodding!). Given the available sources there is absolutely nothing that prohibits having this article. There just isn't enough content to make it in its current state wise to keep. A simple question of information stewardship that is solved by "merge to", clearly not by AfD, and definitely not by PRD! gidonb (talk) 13:35, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * What exactly do you want to merge, considering there is no referenced content here? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:33, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Why are you so desperate to destroy content? We are here to build an encyclopedia. The Banner  talk</i> 08:53, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Build encyclopedia? Of course. Just don't confuse encyclopedia with a listing of everything. WP:NOT. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:14, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I am a realist, I believe that some articles can be merged or improved, instead of being destroyed. And that being unsourced is not the same as a death sentence for an article. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 16:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * So you disagree even with WP:V? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Bruce Forsyth Wm335td (talk) 20:46, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Bruce Forsyth as suggested by . KartikeyaS (talk) 07:00, 10 March 2020 (UTC)


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