Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holography in fiction


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The result was no consensus.  A  Train talk 06:47, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Holography in fiction

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This article was split off from holography but it has still in 4 years not evolved beyond complete unreferenced WP:POPCULTURE cruft. I have added examples to Holography that are notable and referenced, most of these are not notable. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 20:10, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:23, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge back and trim appropriately, which may end up looking more like a redirect... Jclemens (talk) 03:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Merging would ultimately just induce cruft that was removed in the first place for being non notable. I am of the opinion that any future content in the section should be researched anew from reliable sources.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:09, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * So what? Trim it out, then, and leave it in the history for editors who care to source it to find. Split->delete is not how we handle IPC content. Jclemens (talk) 06:35, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The majority of the content is already "preserved" in the history of holography from before the split here. Ergo, there should be nothing wrong with split-> delete if the split was ill-considered.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 09:37, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Some splits go back years. I see no harm in adding content to the more recent history, for ease of location by anyone who wants to find and fix the problems. Jclemens (talk) 01:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- an indiscriminate collection of information, fails WP:LISTN. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - I'm a sci-fi fan. The extent to which this plot device has been used throughout popular culture, as evidenced by the long list of well-known titles here (many of which I'm familiar with and all of which are Wiki-linked), suggests that this is a notable thing. Given that, the list is too long to put back into the holography article - this seems to be exactly what lists were created for. The sourcing in my opinion doesn't need to be more than linking to each work's main article, assuming the plot synopses mentions the holography info. We just have to rely on people who have read the books or watched the shows/films to police this. BTW - Prometheus (2012 film) is missing. ;-) TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  19:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The problem with this is that, technically, the vast majority of depictions of holograms in sci-fi is so unrelated to real holograms that it might as well be magic. There's no encyclopedic value in listing every instance of these holograms, because they are mere window dressing. If an *actual* hologram was discussed in a fictional work, it would make sense to list them, but the amount of  sci-fi that use real holograms would likely easily fit inside the main article.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:25, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tim. I love SF as well, and know holography is as staple as air and fire. The list is far from being filled with generic cruft, as long as the entries are notable it is allright. L3X1 (distænt write)  01:25, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 04:27, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * exile to TV Tropes, er, delete In a few short years this has degenerated to a stock device, particularly in visual media (into which I would lump gaming). there are perhaps a few cases which justify mention in the main article but for the most part holograms fall somewhere between visual gee-whiz and directorial laziness. Mangoe (talk) 14:57, 17 October 2017 (UTC)


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