Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holy Family School of Quezon City


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:32, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Holy Family School of Quezon City

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Non-notable per WP:NSCHOOL, WP:ORG, WP:GNG  Hiwilms   Talk   04:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   Hiwilms   Talk   04:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete due to not surprisingly lacking the multiple in-depth reliable sources needed to pass either WP:GNG and WP:NORG. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:35, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete The only contributor for this article is a user who claims to be an employee of this school and even dared other users not to revert his edits. -WayKurat (talk) 11:47, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify? I'm seeing an edit history going back to 2013, with significant edits by multiple editors, including one for October 2013 which has been completely rewritten.  Good thing too, since it looked like it might have been copied from another source (see my Note to any un-deleting admin of 14:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC) below). davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  14:15, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.   Hiwilms   Talk   12:15, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out . The editor in question only started editing this article in 2019. -WayKurat (talk) 17:22, 26 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Soft-delete or draftify: While this article is poorly refernced, I would not be surprised if non-English-language, paywalled, or offline sources exist. Why?  This appears to be a school that goes up through the equivalent of a high school in the United States, which suggest strongly but not conclusively that reliable, independent sources exist.  That said, I think the project will be better served if this article "disappears" until someone with access to such sources is willing to take it on. I would request that the deletion log indicate that a previous version is available for undeletion to draft- or user-space as a userspace-draft on request, to deter people from creating a new page on the topic that might be just as poorly sourced as this one.  Moving it back to the main encyclopedia should be contingent on COI-cleanup and sufficient referencing to clearly support notability.  I am also open to a redirect/merge IF a suitable target can be found and the school is or will be soon mentioned in the target.  This would have the advantage of providing a search term and keeping the edit history in public view. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  12:40, 21 October 2020 (UTC)  Delete per Hiwilms's reply immediately below on Philippine K-12 schools frequently failing WP:N/WP:ORG.  The same is not true in the US, probably due to our extensive media coverage of high school sports teams. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  13:58, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a private K-12 institution. A lot of Philippine schools that offer K-12 do not meet WP:NSCHOOL nor WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES (probably except large universities). It is explicitly stated that "secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist, and are still subject to WP:N and WP:ORG."  Hiwilms   Talk   13:29, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: The editor with a conflict of interest appears to be retiring. He put a speedy-deletion template on his user page with the edit summary Joshdelgado08 (talk | contribs) at 05:49, 21 October 2020 (I no longer want to edit).
 * Delete per WP:SIGCOV, WP:MILL, and my standards. In a country where some Catholic schools are over 300 years old, this one is barely 60 years old, and does not have a full K-12 complement. It doesn't seem to have more than 1 or 2 factors out of 10 that would make it notable. Please ping me if you find anything better. FWIW, I've stayed twice in Quezon City and am somewhat familiar with the city. Bearian (talk) 18:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: Barely found anything about the school. Easily fails WP:NSCHOOL. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 06:15, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note to any un-deleting admin: Should this page ever be un-deleted, some of the earlier versions have a "previously published on paper" look to them, like they might have been copied from other sources.  I would recommend NOT un-deleting without either a copyvio check or a precautionary revision delete on older versions, particularly those that contain text added in this major update from 9 October 2013 by an editor who was not the author.  The current version does not contain the suspected copyright violations from that version.  I have not checked it for copyrights though.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  14:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)


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