Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holy Rosary parish, Warispura (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 17:11, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Holy Rosary parish, Warispura
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Non-notable parish, nothing notable found in WP:RS. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCHURCH. Störm  (talk)  10:56, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:33, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep -- A local church with 6000 members in a Muslim country like Pakistan sounds notable to me. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:12, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak Merge or Redirect to Roman Catholic Diocese of Faisalabad. Looking things over there are some sources, but they extremely trivial, not in-depth at all, and a good percentage of them are primary. That said, sources do exist, but I'm more toward merge or redirect because it's pretty borderline. As far as it being notable due to the number of attendants alone, there are almost a million and a half Catholics in Pakistan. So 6000 going to a church isn't that big of a thing. That said, the population of this "local" place is only 554 people. So it would be impossible for the 6000 church members to come from there. Again, it isn't that big of a thing for a large number of people from outside of the village to go to a "local" church there. The population of the district where it's located is over 2 million. So it getting 6000 people going there isn't really that surprising. Anyway, that aside, IMO this should be merged or redirected to the article for the diocese. Since the references are pretty lackluster. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:10, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect - to the parish per above. Notability of organizations is determined by how much has been written about them in reliable independent secondary sources. It has nothing whatsoever to do with numbers., votes that simply state your opinion without any arguments to policy or sources are disregarded when closing an AfD discussion. 184.99.109.101 (talk) 20:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as has reliable sources coverage such as multiple articles by Asia News already in the article so passing WP:GNG. This seems to be a notable parish running six schools and a medical centre, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:00, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 22:37, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. To be honest, I was ready to go along with deletion, but then saw it's been covered in the media over the years for both religious and secular reasons. It's also notable for its large congregation, the riots by other religious adherents, and programs. Bearian (talk) 18:23, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Bearian (talk) 18:23, 7 April 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: No consensus on WP:GNG as required by WP:NCHURCH yet.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 06:23, 8 April 2021 (UTC)


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