Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holy See – Malaysia relations


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The result was   no consensus. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 17:44, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Holy See – Malaysia relations

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according to this article, Malaysia is one of few countries not to have diplomatic relations with the Holy See. secondly the source states that no country is allowed to have the same ambassador for both Italy and Holy See, yet this article implies this. LibStar (talk) 09:10, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - First off, I commend LibStar for researching the state of relations between the two parties. However I have found evidence that despite the lack of a commissioner, relations still do exist. Here are some sources, , , , , . - Marcusmax ( speak ) 14:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - The mere existence of relations is not sufficient, they also have to be significant in some way. No notability has been established. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 01:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you mind backing up your comment with policy. - Marcusmax ( speak ) 19:31, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand -- you want me to back up my contention that an article has to establish the notability of the subject in order to be kept on Wikipedia? WP:N is policy. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 05:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * NEW EVENTS HAVE MADE THESE AFDs IRRELEVANT We could really use some help with Foreign relations of Argentina by country, and merging these articles like this into the diplomacy of articles. Lets all work together to merge these articles instead of arguing about them. Thanks. Ikip (talk) 15:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No coverage of the article topic stated in the title. Fails WP:N and WP:RS -- Blue Squadron  Raven  16:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Reliable sources make it notable. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * you don't think the fact they actually have no diplomatic relations and hence don't really talk to each other makes for some relationship? If anything this would lead to a lack of coverage. LibStar (talk) 15:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Foreign relations of Malaysia, which now contains the content. But a borderline case. Maybe just enough refs to stand alone, and could probably be expanded. Certainly, do not delete and raise red flags to discourage anyone who wants to expand the article. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:02, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.