Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holy cross college of sasa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:34, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Holy cross college of sasa

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Non-notable college, fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG. Virtually no G hits Pol430  talk to me 16:48, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep This was a high school in the Phillippines that in 2010 added college courses. Even if it is not notable yet as a new college, established consensus is that secondary schools such as high schools are presumed to be notable, and it continues as a high school as well. Cullen328 (talk) 17:17, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - now offers post-secondary courses so is clearly notable. I am in the process of cleaning the page up. It should be noted that Filipino schools and colleges invariably have a poor internet presence and a lack of sources found in Google searches does not equate to lack of reliable sources. To avoid systemic bias, time should be given for local sources to be researched and added. I would add that AfDing such pages within a few hours of creation neither allows time for such research nor does it encourage an inexperienced editor in his first article creation effort. Such editors benefit more from guidance than rushing their pages to deletion discussions. TerriersFan (talk) 19:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I think we are really scrapping the barrel on this one! As far as "established consensus is that secondary schools such as high schools are presumed to be notable" goes, I assume you are getting that from here which is an essay and not a policy or guideline, and therefore lacks established consensus. Notability guidelines make it quite clear that educational establishments must be notable as we would expect any other organisation to be. @Terries - When you made that comment the article had no references at all, so I'm not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that the subject is clearly notable!? Anyhow, whilst I would be happy to IAR to save a net gain to the encyclopedia, this article isn't one (IMO). Pol430  talk to me 09:23, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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