Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homeless women in the United States


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 17:54, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Homeless women in the United States

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Reason BobSutan (talk) 16:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Lacking citations throughout the article.
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2012 April 2.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  17:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Lack of references isn't a valid reason for deletion.  Lugnuts  (talk) 17:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * More to the point, there ARE references, and many more to be found. They are not currently in the article as inline citations, but the criteria for deletions is that there is not reasonable expectation that citations CAN BE FOUND.
 * These references:
 * Butler, Sandra S., 1957. Middle-aged, female and homeless.
 * Bulman, Philip Michael. Caught in the mix.
 * Arrighi, Barbara A. America's shame.
 * ...are already in the article. Anarchangel (talk) 21:50, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Arrighi, Barbara A. America's shame.
 * ...are already in the article. Anarchangel (talk) 21:50, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge Merge with Homelessness in the United States 64.42.240.5 (talk) 20:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep- Distinct topic with unique, separate issues despite overlap. Numerous government studies, , (same study) , ] with different, sometimes separate resources. Dru of Id (talk) 21:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Adding . Dru of Id (talk) 21:23, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge with Homelessness in the United States, perhaps as its own major subsection, following extensive source clean-up and style clean-up (citation needed tags seem to have been placed). Disagree with Dru of Id, as this topic is indeed distinct but carries too many overlaps with general homelessness in the US, and would benefit from that page's context as a framing for women's issues re: homelessness in the US. In other words, keeping the current page necessitates redundant content. Devmage (talk) 03:43, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:37, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:39, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Note I note that there are 36 sentences in the article, and 30 tags for citations etc. Someone has gone to considerable trouble to add citation tags, and gone to no trouble at all to find citations. I do not think this is an editing style that benefits Wikipedia. Anarchangel (talk) 03:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Part of that was my doing, but many of the tags were already there when I got here. For personal reasons, I don't at the moment have the time to clean up the article myself, otherwise I'd have done more with it than just mark it up for citations. Devmage (talk) 22:37, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, thank you for saying so. Anarchangel (talk) 03:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  SilkTork   ✔Tea time  16:50, 10 April 2012 (UTC)




 * Delete without prejudice to recreation. This is a sourcing catastrophe and the piece is going to have to be rewritten from scratch to get it sourced out to current standards. This IS, however, an encyclopedic topic. Right now, though, this is almost a parody of Wikipedia at its worst — a collectively written, rambling, unsourced original essay. Carrite (talk) 17:21, 10 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep but make more neutral. Right now the article seems to say that it is lack of government programs that cause the problem. Divorce, drug problems, and zoning laws are not mentioned as causes. Clearly a notable topic from coverage in sources. On the other hand it could be merged to a general article on homelessness in the US. Borock (talk) 17:24, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Distinct topic from its parent article (Homelessness in the United States), which is certainly long enough to warrant this sort of spinout.  That said, great googly moogly this needs cleaned up... Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 17:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Squeamish Ossifrage. This is a topic that deserves its own article...though the article needs serious cleanup, AFD is not the way to go.Smallman12q (talk) 12:52, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.