Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homs offensive (October 2015)


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  17:34, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Homs offensive (October 2015)

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Only one source in the article discusses this in detail, fails WP:GNG. Also near clone of Daraa offensive (October 2015) Mdann52 (talk) 09:31, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep Added another Yahoo News source. Syria regime in new offensive as Putin blasts US, Yahoo News, 16-10-15 There are plenty more. Guru Noel (talk) 13:49, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. EkoGraf (talk) 17:13, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Nom no longer valid at time of vote. You will need another argument. Guru Noel (talk) 20:20, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It isn't a valid argument against deletion to just say "Nom no longer valid", you need to provide an actual reason. - SantiLak  (talk) 21:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The nom is no longer valid as there are 2 sources discussing it in detail, I added another one, 2 comments up. I'll repeat in case it was overlooked for some reason - Keep Added another Yahoo News source. Syria regime in new offensive as Putin blasts US, Yahoo News, 16-10-15 There are plenty more. I'll go add a BBC one too Guru Noel (talk) 01:27, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The sources you added contradict the unsourced (most likely OR) start date of the offensive you inserted (6 October). Instead they give a totally different start date (15 October). And a lack of subsequent sources on an offensive in Homs province (for more than three weeks since than) suggests it was only a one-day operation and making it highly non-notable to warrant its own article. EkoGraf (talk) 04:49, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  18:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete inconsistencies in sources about the start date and likely insignificant nature of this engagement make it non-notable. Can be covered in the parent article. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 04:42, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete looks like a small one-day operation, not an "offensive". Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 20:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:31, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep This appears to be plenty notable, but reporting is minimal due to the whole 'warzone' thing. Series of airstrikes, multiple settlements changing hands, fighting ongoing as of today, significant deathtoll. I'd note that the objection to the word offensive doesn't have much basis in the actual definition of the word, and Peacemaker67 has accidentally repeated his opinion. 92.25.136.209 (talk) 16:09, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment, I've just been looking more into this, there's very little reporting in western media, but there are actually plenty of sources, they're just biased (ofc pretty much all sources are biased, but wiki accepts the bbc but not, for eg, http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151118/1030341421/syrian-army-advances-near-palmyra.html or http://aranews.net/2015/11/leishmaniasis-breaks-out-among-syrian-army-forces-near-palmyra/ Nevertheless, evidence for notability & ongoingness of this offensive/operation/frontline/advance/whatever, is ample. 92.25.136.209 (talk) 16:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


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