Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Honeysuckle Gelato


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  20:55, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Honeysuckle Gelato

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local company with local following, according to the article itself. Only the first ref is conceivably usable.  DGG ( talk ) 03:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 10:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 10:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 10:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep at worst this would be a merge and redirect to Ponce City Market per WP:PRESERVE. In addition to the extensive coverage in the Atlanta Magazine article noted above there is also lots of coverage from the Atlanta Journal Constitution, recognition as an important local food purveyor from the University of Georgia, and coverage in other Atlanta area news sources. I deem it enough to make this special company with distinctive products notable per substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. FloridaArmy (talk) 11:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Local company that fails WP:GNG....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:04, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Well, it cannot decisively meet WP:NCORP. And does not have a Wikipedia administrator as a frequent and cherished customer. But it runs up quite a few mentions in the media. And it's not too soon. And it's a business that contributes to the Atlanta Community Food Bank. So, weak knees. -The Gnome (talk) 06:05, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:13, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete None, zero, not a single reference meets the criteria for establishing notability. says there is "extensive coverage" in the Atlanta Magazine but completely fails to say that none of the coverage could be considered intellectually independent since it consists of interviews and quotations or small mentions-in-passing, therefore fails WP:CORPDEPTH and/or WP:ORGIND. Perhaps FloridaArmy, who !votes a lot at AfD could point out some of the "extensive coverage" that would be considered to meet the criteria for establishing notability? FloridaArmy also conveniently forgets to point out that the Atlanta Journal Constitution (AJC) articles are blog posts, thereby fails WP:RS as blog posts are not considered as reliable sources. We really need contributors who !vote regularly at AfD to provide !votes based on policies and guidelines especially if their !votes are based on the quality of sources.  HighKing++ 20:33, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) you're wrong on notability and interviews, they do help establish notability when done by reliable independent sources. "An independent interviewer represents the "world at large" giving attention to the subject, and as such, interviews as a whole contribute to the basic concept of notability."
 * 2) I am seeing news coverage not interviews. Lots of articles on this Atlanta indie business. Jist click the "news" libk above.
 * 3) You haven't addressed why if this business isn't independently notable, failing to merge content according to wp:preserve would be appropriate when an aplroproate target with bysinesses in the market already exists.
 * I've looked at the many articles discussing the company and its products. Choosing it for an award as one of Atlanta's best. And discussion of the founders, product offerings, and role in the Ponce City Market and notability is clearly established per guidelines. FloridaArmy (talk) 23:50, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) No ... articles that rely extensively on interviews and quotations are not intellectually independent and fail WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:ORGIND. Clearly stated in the guidelines.
 * 2) Please post links so that the "news" articles can be assessed.
 * 3) Sure, if there's anything notable to merge.
 * And post links to the articles you are referring to. The guidelines for establishing notability are different in relation to references than those references that may be used to support information and facts within an article. The criteria for establishing notability requires two sources. To date, zero sources meet the criteria for establishing notability.  HighKing++ 10:40, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:20, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete a minor establishment of local and passing interest only. Fails WP:NCORP / WP:TOOSOON. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:52, 21 April 2018 (UTC)


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