Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hong Kong Caring Magic Circus


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The result was   delete. (soft) slakr  \ talk / 05:31, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Hong Kong Caring Magic Circus

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I'm happy to accept that there might be non-English sources available but all of the English or joint-language sources seem to emanate from the organisation itself rather than from independent sources. Despite the number of people the article claims it aims to serve, the group is actually very small and has completed a small number of event considering its 5-year history. Given the apparent lack of coverage, I would argue this fails both WP:GNG and WP:ORGDEPTH.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 22:08, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:23, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:23, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * This organization puts up media coverage they've gained on its own website.--114.81.255.40 (talk) 13:33, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I can't read much of that but some of what I could translate suggests much of it is self-published or "advertorial". But if there really is significant coverage in independent reliable sources then I'll happily withdraw this.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 04:01, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 03:54, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment Founder recently nominated for Asia Television's 2014 Hong Kong Loving Hearts Campaign award ATV press release (the 12th nomination) for his work with the circus and could grant good notability (either to him or the circus) should he won accolade from here. Also nice is to retrieve some previous versions of Guinness World Records' website for the "largest magic lesson" claim.  野狼院 ひさし  Hisashi Yarouin 06:54, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * That's good information, but that would generally confer notability on him rather than his group. Groups don't inherit notability from their notable members. That said, I don't think the nomination would be enough for him to be considered notable. A win, on the other hand, might be a different story.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 08:00, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes I'm aware. Anyway the results are not yet out since the public vote just started not too long ago (5 days ago), so it will have to wait. Consider a delete with no prejudice of recreation from me if the AfD has to be decided before that.  野狼院 ひさし  Hisashi Yarouin 10:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D u s t i *Let's talk!* 00:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


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