Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hong Kong Railway Corporation


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus for deletion, default to keep. It is not quite clear what the problem is with this article. Any inaccurate or misplaced content about these railway companies can be remedied by editing or merging the articles, which does not require deletion.

Hong Kong Railway Corporation

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inaccurate official name. The mystery has been proved by the citation in article MTR Corporation‎. Undoubtedly, The English name of the coming merger company will be MTR Corpoeration rathan than Hong Kong Railway Corporation. Sameboat - 同舟 13:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Seems some fast-acting wikipediaens created this article based on new Chinese name (香港鐵路有限公司) without more research. This Chinese name change is caused by a MTR-KCR service integration (NOT company merger), with the the Chinese name of MTR Corporation Limited being changed while the English name keep unchanged. --Leeyc0 (Talk) 15:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination, unlikely link target or search term make this a poor redirect candidate. Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 16:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, but rename Inaccurate name is never a justification to delete. That is what Requested moves is for. Chris!  c t 02:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * reply There are 2 reasons I nominate this article to deletion. 1) Article of the correct name MTR Corporation‎ already exists in Wikipedia. 2) This whole article has load of uncyclopedic, trivial and uncited contents including the CO2 emission from the MTR trains, BVE Trainsim (removed), new uniform and KCR logo removal which do not worth its own section at all. (Interestingly after this article is nominated some of these contents were moved/copied to MTR Corporation‎ and MTR.) -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 10:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There is only like 2 weeks left before the companies merge. So why delete everything just to recreate it again. Lack of citations should not be a problem at all as it is usually an easy fix. The name is wrong. I know. So that's what I am suggesting. We can keep the original MTR Corporation article at MTR Corporation and rename this new one to something like MTR Corporation (Post-merger). Chris!  c t 21:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Some comments:
 * It is not a company merger. MTR Corporation (with Chinese name changed) just takes over the operation of the rail lines originally operated by Kowloon-Canton Railway Corporation. (After the take over, KCRC will just own the assets, without actual operation of KCR lines.)
 * The "new" company will have very similar business (almost identical, except the Kowloon-Canton Railway lines) with the "old" one, therefore there will be large section of content being overlapped.
 * Because of these 2 reasons, I consider redirecting Hong Kong Railway Corporation is not a good idea. --Leeyc0 (Talk) 03:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So what are you saying, we just put info of the new company to the old MTR Corp article. No, it is still a new company and should have its own article. I know the name is incorrect, but that is a matter of name change not deletion. Chris!  c t 01:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * What's your suggestion of new name to preserve this article. MTRC is in fact acquiring KCRC properties in this so-called "merger". Unless someone rewrite the whole content, this article doesn't deserve a place in Wikipedia. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 02:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If it were a new company, I would also suggest to create a new article. But it is not a new company, but just an old company (MTR corporation) that acquires KCRC properties. I think you have misunderstood the situation.--Leeyc0 (Talk) 08:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Then are you saying that everything about the new MTR should stay in the original MTR article? Chris!  c t 21:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. But if you still disagree, I have another suggestion. The original MTR Corporation should be moved to MTR Corporation (before 2008), while Hong Kong Railway Corporation should be moved to MTR Corporation instead. --00:52, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Not an option. As the reasons I stated above. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 01:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If we continue to add stuff to the old MTR article, then the article will eventually become too long. We should take this opportunity to split the article. It doesn't matter if it is a merger or an acquisition. Chris!  c t 20:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the MTRC article is unlikely to expand by much, since its railway operations are covered in MTR. So I don't see the point of a size-induced split, and is in favour of just adding post-merger information onto the existing MTRC article. Kelvinc (talk) 06:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.