Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Honor killing of Arash Ghorbani-Zarin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. If anyone wishes to merge the content into Honor killing however, please do come and see me on my talk page and I'll restore the article for this to happen. Should anyone be so inclined as to wish to create a redirect, please do so.  Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 00:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Honor killing of Arash Ghorbani-Zarin

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Only marginal coverage of a single event, unclear how this meets WP:GNG and warning tag has been present for over 2 years with no corrective action. UnrepentantTaco (talk) 20:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC) Edit reverted as per WP:BE and. Unscintillating (talk) 13:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence of consequences of this event which could make it encyclopedic. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:03, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Appears to fail WP:NOTNEWS. Only one-time coverage (ok, two articles in approximately one month). 86.121.18.17 (talk) 07:20, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: The nominator was blocked as of 06:52, 21 June 2013 for sock puppetry per a discussion "Disruptive creation of groundless AFDs, probable sockpuppetry". Crtew (talk) 15:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep. A significant event discussed in numerous books. Failure of WP:BEFORE. -- 203.171.197.13 (talk) 09:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not discussed in any of those books. It has at most a few sentences about it, basic facts within a paragraph that also covers other stuff. That makes it perhaps worth mentioning at Honor killings, nothing more. The coverage in those books (just two really, not counting the court proceedings volume and the obscure/self-published) isn't even making any sort of commentary that you could use to expand this article with some kind of academic insight. If kept, this is likely to be a WP:PERMASTUB. Not a good idea when a larger topic exists. At best this should be merged, but target there article has plenty of examples already. Given the lack of specific commentary in sources, I'm not even sure what this would add, besides "here's another case in Europe". 86.121.18.17 (talk) 09:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Rename -- Honour killing of Arash Ghorbani-Zarin or just Murder of Arash Ghorbani-Zarin : this is an English article and should have an English spelling. So-called "family honour", part of the efforts of south Asian men to control their womenfolk by fear of being murdered, is a significant social problem.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:18, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * If it's a big problem in the UK, then perhaps Honour killings in the UK should be created first as a sub-article of Honor killing. Having a bunch of permastubs all relating to the UK is less informative for the reader than an overview article which could also include statistics, etc. There are certainly sources which provide an encyclopedic overview : "the UK had recorded at least 2,823 "honour" attacks over 2010. Some forces showed a jump of nearly 50 per cent in such cases from 2009." The topic should probably be made broader than (successful) killings, e.g with 'crime' or 'attack' in the title. 86.121.18.17 (talk) 10:06, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, for what it's worth, most articles in Category:Honor killing in Europe follow the present naming convention, not the one you propose. 86.121.18.17 (talk) 11:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Honor killing#Europe Darkness Shines (talk) 09:49, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Honor killing. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:29, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.