Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hopkinsons


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The result was   no consensus. There is no agreement that the existing sources are insufficient to support the article's existence. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  16:59, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Hopkinsons

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Not at all notable. No assertion of notability - it is just a bus company. No refs at all other than its own web-site  Velella  Velella Talk 16:00, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete This appears to be an ordinary and long established bus company. A perfectly acceptable bus company but one with no other WP:RS other than its own to establish its overall notability. This article is hardly going to be anything more substantial, than what it is at present. The advertising doesn't help. --Artene50 (talk) 01:10, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Hopkinsons is a major bus operator in Sydney, Australia. It is notable for being the first private operator to introduce air-conditioned buses in Sydney, and also for carrying most passengers into the city of Parramatta every day. Article expanded since nomination. WWGB (talk) 09:21, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - looking through the archived news there is a sufficiency of articles on it's distant history and there also seems enough in news archives to support a independently and reliably sourced article - Peripitus (Talk) 11:47, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * delete insufficient coverage even with improvements, need more reporting in main media not bus related sources. LibStar (talk) 15:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep Meets WP:GNG.  The trail goes all the way back to 1897, when the first mention of a Merrylands bus appears in Trove.  The "Hopkinsons' Group" of Companies gets hits on larger organizations in the U.S. and in Britain, but it is a family-owned business, where "G R Hopkinson (Transport) Pty Ltd" provides "Regulated Bus Services" under "Section 28J(2) of the Passenger Transport Act 1990 (NSW)".  This establishes wp:notability.  FYI, here are company names that I found:


 * S. Try bus service
 * Sid Try bus service
 * S. Fry bus service (probably a typo)
 * Merrylands Bus Co.
 * Graylines (Merrylands Bus Service)
 * Bus and Coach Charter Division Hopkinsons
 * Hopkinsons' Group
 * Hopkinsons Group of Companies
 * Hopkinsons Transport Pty Ltd
 * Hopkinsons Coaches
 * Hopkinson Bus Company
 * Hopkinsons Bus Company
 * Hopkinson's Luxury Coaches
 * Hopkinson Metro Bus
 * Hopkinson's Metro Bus
 * Hopkinson's MetroBus
 * Hoppies Touring Club
 * Todiki Pty Ltd trading as Travelworld
 * Ingleburn Probus Club
 * G R Hopkinson (Services) Pty Ltd
 * G R Hopkinson (Transport) Pty Ltd
 * Challenges Coachlines Pty Ltd (and related agency Challenge Travel)


 * related:
 * Graham Roland Hopkinson
 * NSW Bus and Coach Show
 * Metropolitan Bus System Contract
 * Regulated Bus Services
 * Section 28J(2) of the Passenger Transport Act 1990 (NSW)
 * NSW Transport and Infrastructure, regulating agency
 * Sydney Metro Region 3
 * Area 3 Management Company Pty Ltd (A3MC)
 * Unscintillating (talk) 16:57, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
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