Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horeston Grange, Warwickshire


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:32, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Horeston Grange, Warwickshire

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Another page with lack of clarification and seems to be of no notability DragonofBatley (talk) 20:41, 22 August 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:04, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Mangoe (talk) 03:24, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to be an OS settlement though the OS doesn't mention it. Its in the unparished area of Nuneaton and is mentioned at Nuneaton so perhaps merge there. It is mentioned in a few Books but it doesn't seem like anything substantial. Also unless deleted it should probably be moved to Horeston Grange as it doesn't appear to be ambiguous.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 10:00, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - My searches are not coming up with anything that shows notability. The lack of recognition in OS maps is key, because WP:GEOLAND says Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable. Even then, there needs to be enough notable information to make a page. I want to think on this one a bit longer. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:53, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Given the place isn't even an OS settlement its probably not legally-recognized but a redirect to the town would probably be preferable to deletion.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 10:10, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep - Some sources that mention the place are which is widely cited. Also mentioned in books,, (although I did not find significant coverage in a book yet). It is mentioned in news quite a lot, e.g. this BBC report , so definitely a populated place known by that name, a district of Nuneaton with associated history. I think sources exist sufficient to develop the article, although clearly the article is in a poor state. I have added a template as there are no citations, but the state of the article is not a reaason to delete (unless per WP:TNT, and on this occasion I think what is in the article is probably right, just unsourced, so don't think it needs TNT). Apologies for not getting back to this sooner necessitating a relist. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 06:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep - it is recognised on OS maps (see here, zoom in on the map if necessary to see Horeston Grange marked). It's also an historic site - albeit a locally listed one instead of having a national listing, listed as one of "England's cities, towns and most noted villages" in a gazetter from 1715. That's all from a very cursory search, I'm sure some more in-depth research would throw up more. The location of a historic building which would certainly have been notable if still standing, and on the basis that notability is permanent, is still notable now. Waggers</b><small  style="color:#080">TALK  13:22, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - I have tried to improve the earlier monastic and manorial history a bit, with suitable references and a references section setup, which I think goes towards notability. The fact that the name "Grange" has a historical basis here and is not merely a naff planner's or developer's madeup fiction is well worth noticing and understanding, and the changing nature of the settlement in the modern context is therefore also perfectly relevant. The place is part of the important history of Nuneaton. If it's worth a section in the Victoria County History, it ought to deserve a foothold in wikipedia. But much improvement needed to this article. Eebahgum (talk) 23:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Nice work. I removed the unreferenced tag I had placed. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 06:13, 31 August 2022 (UTC)


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