Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horizons: Empire of Istaria

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This entry doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. It is obviously biased and created by "fan bois" or is corporate insertion. Horizons has in no way radically changed the gaming industry or introduced anything uniquely radical to the genre. The only entry that belongs in the encyclopedia is the term "MMORPG" and perhaps games that had a drastic impact listed with a BRIEF description of what they offered to the industry. A game in itself in no way warrants a unique entry into the encyclopedia. This article is a sales pitch plain and simple. If the creators of Wikpedia have any desire to maintain this project's integrity as an educational tool it will simply remove this article. unsigned listing by User:4.37.96.130
 * Keep. If the article is biased, it needs to be cleaned up, not deleted. However, none of the anonymous editors complaining about said "bias" have put forward even a single word of explanation as to what about the article is "biased"&mdash;their contributions have been limited to vandalism, e.g., , . I suspect that the only "unbiased" article which would satisfy is one which read "OMG HORIZONS IS TEH SUXX0R AND ONLY FAGZ PLAY IT!!!!!!!1" Articles on computer games clearly fall within Wikipedia's purview&mdash;if we were to delete this article, there are many others (see Category:Computer and video games by platform) which would also need deletion. &mdash;Stormie 23:35, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. The entry seems reasonable, and major computer games deserve entries. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 00:28, 2004 Sep 2 (UTC)
 * Keep. Is notable, and just needs massive a bit more cleanup. -- Grunt 🇪🇺 00:56, 2004 Sep 2 (UTC)
 * Delete No game deserves an entry into and encyclopedia unless it affected society in some way. Pong might be an example of this. This entry is basically a list of "features" that anyone interested in the game can acquire from the company's website. Sure it has a bit of 'history' but in the end is nothing more than an advertisement.
 * unsigned vote by User:Bob Barker5, who has only contributed to Horizons: Empire of Istaria and its vfd entry. David Remahl 05:12, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. This game is part of the MMORPG genre of computer games which has greatly affected society. It has created terms used on the internet, a new addiction that warranted support groups, a craze in many countries such as Japan, Korea, US, UK, and lots more.  This is part of a sub-culture that is slowly growing and definately deserves entry, albeit cleanup.
 * Unsigned vote by User:135.214.66.241, who has contributed to Wikipedia for a long time, actually for a whole year (contributions). David Remahl 05:12, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Needs cleanup... it's amazing how much emotion a simple game can bring out in people. We have articles already that are as important, or less so, than this one. However it does need some cleanup and needs to look less like a blatant ad. --Kukuman 05:26, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * DELETE* Because no computer game deserves this much free advertising. While you're at it, delete the Everquest entry as well.  How many links to spoiler sites ya got over there?  Is this an encyclopedia or google?
 * Unsigned vote by anon user User:24.96.49.177, who has a range of vandalism-related edits to the page in question (contribs). &mdash; David Remahl 15:19, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. It would look better if people would improve rather than destroying it. See the aforementioned vandalism. --Marco 08:36, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * The hell? This is ridiculous. The accusations against this article are baseless, and appear to be mostly or all made by the same person, who appears to have some grudge against Horizons, using sockpuppets. This is reinforced by the fact that not one logged-in editor has voted "delete" (and anons can't vote, so their votes are meaningless). This article is certainly not Vfd material. Keep. --Slowking Man 21:54, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)

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