Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horst Kutscher


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kpg  jhp  jm  06:31, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Horst Kutscher

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Completely unreferenced biography of a person "notable" only for being the 36th person to do a not inherently notable thing. This could get him an article if he were really well sourced as the subject of enough reliable source coverage in media to clear WP:GNG, but it's not an inclusion freebie that guarantees him an article just because he existed. Bearcat (talk) 00:26, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - I was swaying towards the nom's POV - I don't think that being the 36th person to be killed in a particular conflict or by an oppressive dictatorship is enough to be notable - but the Google Books search threw up a lot of references to his attempt at crossing. This book has an entire chapter on him. This one gives him a paragraph. More references appear available in German and a check of the DE wiki page shows a references to several pages in a book about him. This leaves WP:1E, but that would require a page covering the event to redirect/merge to and I don't see the point of starting a page called "The shooting of Horst Kutscher". I think it's important to keep WP:NEXIST in mind - if you think an article could be written based on RSs, then this is enough to substantiate keeping. FOARP (talk) 11:23, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:38, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep - Article is now sourced. The subject is written about on many Berlin Wall sites and in German news sites as well as in books. The subject clearly passes WP:BIO and meets notability guidelines. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 20:16, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - per above. Google book search was the first thing I did before even coming here, as usually victim of the wall have extensive writeup. Agathoclea (talk) 21:39, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


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