Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hotel Buena Vista Beach Resort


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was DELETE. The Keep arguments - that it's a fine resort, that we should give the guy a break - are not strong. Herostratus 10:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Hotel Buena Vista Beach Resort

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I can't find any notability for this place. There seems to be a Tribune article, but it's not linked. Whsitchy 15:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - Sources do not necessarily have to be on the web for them valid.- Tiswas (t) 15:41, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I know that, but he doesn't even have a specific article mentioned. For all we know, it could just be a simple review of the hotel and nothing else. Whsitchy 16:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article is reasonably NPOV and cites multiple independent sources. Unless someone looks all those sources up and finds them to be bogus, we should assume they are legit. Capmango 23:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I just checked the SD Tribune site, this is all I got, unless they don't archive articles from 2000. Whsitchy 17:38, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Add-on comment most if not all the sources are in fact reviews of the place, nothing of real note happened there except for a fish getting caught. Whsitchy 17:40, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment --Kyle Emerick 19:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC) I created the page as my first entry into Wikipedia as I went there almost two months ago now and I thought the place was unreal compared to the other resorts areound it. The owner treated my family like royalty and so when I got back to the states I looked them up and found no Wikipedia page for them.  There seem to be plenty of other resorts that have Wikipedia pages and there is nothing at all notable about them.  I thought the underground river which makes the area super lush was a reaooddity as the surrounding area is desert and this place in like an oasis.  Regaring the referneces, I found all of them on the web or from scanned magazines or newspaper articles either specifically on the region or the resort itself.
 * Delete, non-notable resort, no claims of notability, probably part of the Hotel internet marketing SEO scheme. Corvus cornix 20:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment That's another reason why I did this, could be part of that. Whsitchy 14:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment --Kyle Emerick 21:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC) I visited the resort due to the resorts huge boat fleet which takes you out to one of the best Marlin fishing areas there are in the world. Cabo San Lucas just to the south has great Marlin fishing but the East Cape teems with life like no other sport fishing area, that me and my fishing buddies have ever heard of.  The resort is far superior to the other hotels around it and is the reason why I picked it.  I would not have flown my family down there had it not been for this places reputation of repeat customers and world renowned sport fishing.  Maybe I did not state it well enough but I thought I kept it short and sweet, and I tried to add some history to it other than the place is world renowned for its sport fishing.
 * Comment The article doesn't look like spam or advertising. Having reviews in multiple independent publications is plenty to establish notability. Capmango 23:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. It also looks like a promotional item rather than anything else. Virtually any place that was open for at least one season can now provide multiple sourced reviews. Hotel reviews is a weak source of notability. Alex Pankratov 00:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep it looks valid to me and does not look like advertising. I just looked on the reort homepage and the links are all vaild. give the guy a break, its his first article. — 72.197.86.86 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 01:56, June 7, 2007 (UTC).
 * Weak Keep I am normally skeptical about the notability of hotels and restaurants whose only references are articles in local newspapers and tourist magazines., but I followed up the preceding suggestion and looked at the web page, where there are links to many articles from speciaiist fishing journals, and I'm willing to accept that it is a notable fishing resort. Inadequate article. Keep if the refs are inserted properly. DGG''' 04:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment--Kyle Emerick 11:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC) I believe I have edited the references so they show up properly. Please let me know if there is something else I should change.  I'd like to create and help out here on Wikipedia and not waste your time everyone.  I just thought the resort was unique enought to have one little page on Wikipedia.
 * Comment: Please see Articles for deletion/Common outcomes: Bars, pubs, cafes and hotels should be listed on WikiTravel, unless multiple sources have written about them in detail. Corvus cornix 21:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: --Kyle Emerick 04:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC) In just a few minutes of looking, I have viewed over 40 references to the resort and 15 or more are magazine or newspaper articles devoted to the resort. I can add more if it helps but I thought a few references were sufficient.  It is the most popular resort in its region by far .  It is know as the "Jewel of East Cape" and that region has pretty much the best sport fishing in the world.  I'll also add a page to WikiTravel but I think the resort deserves a Wikipedia page.  Ask anyone that goes deep sea fishing in that region and I guarantee you they have been to or have heard about the resort.


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