Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hotel Trianon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Redirect to The Comedians (novel) Mandsford 02:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Hotel Trianon

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Non-notable fictional hotel, may be appropriate to be merged either to the book or the hotel page Sadads (talk) 23:54, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Would be fine as a subsection of The Comedians (novel) but it's clearly not a stand-alone topic. SteveStrummer (talk) 01:36, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge to the novel, which can reference the actual hotel upon which it is based. Jclemens (talk) 17:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence of WP:NOTABILITY, nothing sourced to merge. A redirect wouldn't hurt either. – sgeureka t•c 08:06, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Mentioned in quite a few books and articles on the hotel and on Greene's works. RS cite added.  from the NYT should buttress the fictional hotel's notability.   specifically states:  Holding forth each morning over breakfast at the Hotel Oloffson, the 19th-century gingerbread concoction of turrets and terraces that is the scene of much of Mr. Greene's novel (under the name Hotel Trianon), Aubelin Jolicoeur, the longtime journalist and ascot-wearing dandy who was the model for the novel's gadfly and informer, Petit Pierre, still delights in recalling the author and his impact.   also notes the connection.  Seems quite sufficiently notable if it has multiple NYT mentions, to be sure. Collect (talk) 15:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Both of those citations seem more appropriate for the Hotel Oloffson article than they do for this. SteveStrummer (talk) 17:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The issue is thus not RS sources - which clearly exist, but whether the RS sources making specific comments about the fictional hotel establish notability for the fictional hotel. When in any doubt, I would err on the side of accepting that sufficient notability exists.   Collect (talk) 22:44, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, or Redirect. No secondary sources analyse the fictional hotel. They merely mention that it was a thinly-disguised version of a real hotel. Heck, the Overlook Hotel from The Shining is a redirect, and it might even have some good sources.  Abductive  (reasoning) 06:16, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect for lack of significant coverage to WP:verify notability. Sources barely mention the hotel in the context of focusing on other topics. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, and redirect to Waldorf Astoria Hotels and Resorts as reasonable search term for one of its hotels. Stifle (talk) 10:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.