Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hotel on Rivington


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  23:43, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Hotel on Rivington

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This hotel exists, and was briefly up for purchase by Jared Kushner. That generated many name drops of the hotel, but there is no significant, in depth coverage that establishes notability for the hotel. It does not appear to be architecturally distinct, or any other element of notability. It was in the news, yes, but if you look at the results, they're not about the hotel so much as the potential sale. Star  Mississippi  22:34, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  Star   Mississippi  22:34, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  Star   Mississippi  22:34, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  Star   Mississippi  22:34, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:GNG. The fact that the Kushners were involved doesn't really add to notability. LibStar (talk) 23:58, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * delete Mentioned in every NYC travel guide, but that's about it; the best I could find was a quick reference to its construction in 2004 as a first in the neighborhood, which I don't think is enough. Mangoe (talk) 00:11, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * delete Such facts and announcements are not enough for passing wp:GNG 1друг (talk) 08:21, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * KEEP I guess none of the delete voters, did a Google news search. I have added several new citations, including Newsweek (ranked it as one of Top 7 Lower East Side of Manhattan hotels), WWD, NY Post, therealdeal.com and boweryboogie.com. based on significant coverage it meets notability. Chelokabob (talk) 09:37, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Much of that is about the Kushners, which I mentioned in the nomination. That extended family blinks and the media jumps, it doesn't confer notability to the hotel. Also, hasn't NYP (and most definitely Page 6) been deprecated? Star   Mississippi  14:21, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: No they are not. I provided 5 new citations. 4 do not mention the Kushners, one does, but its also not entirely about the Kushners deal. Regarding NY Post/Page 6 WP:RSP says: "There is consensus that the New York Post is generally unreliable for factual reporting especially with regard to politics"  however, this article is not about politics, so the info can be considered reliable. Plus read the articles, there is no way what they say is not accurate. Chelokabob (talk) 19:33, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Sources 3,4,7 and 8 are about the Kushners as of this edit (just using for diff, no issue with your edit) are related to the Kushner possible sale. Agree to disagree on this, and look forward to what others have to say Star   Mississippi  01:17, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete,Nothing is said to make this hotel notable Alex-h (talk) 10:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Run-of-the-mill NYC "luxury" hotel with no indications of notability. Not even sure which guideline to apply - whether some WP:NBUILD or perhaps NCORP? If NCORP, none of the references provide in-depth "Independent Content" information on the company.  HighKing++ 13:37, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:GNG as the sources focus on the Kushners not the hotel and I couldn't find other sources to show notability. Suonii180 (talk) 18:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:40, 12 December 2021 (UTC)


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